Storm Amy.

Started by Raven, October 03, 2025, 07:19:54 AM

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klondike

Was all yout power out  then or just the sockets? If the main RCD had tripped then yes it could well be an element blown. The old tungsten light bulbs sometimes did that.


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Mups

Quote from: klondike on October 07, 2025, 06:50:09 AMWas all yout power out  then or just the sockets? If the main RCD had tripped then yes it could well be an element blown. The old tungsten light bulbs sometimes did that.
Nothing plugged in worked,  not the telly, landline, radio, cooker, etc.   
The only thing that worked were the ceiling main lights.

Ashy

It's been announced that starmer has congratulated that moslem woman for stopping the boats. 

I wonder if she accepted the compliment or put it down to God working his purpose out.

klondike

Quote from: Mups on October 07, 2025, 10:37:59 AMNothing plugged in worked,  not the telly, landline, radio, cooker, etc. 
The only thing that worked were the ceiling main lights.

It wasn't the main trip that went then as the lights were on which I'd assumed anyway as you said it was evening.

As cookers are always on their own individual circuits its hard to see how a fault on that could trip the ring main and neither the cooker nor the main trips.

If the main oven element has blown it won't get warm at all. If it is one of the (I'm guessing halogen as you mentioned ceramic hob) has blown then that won't light up at all. If they never light up its an induction hob and that won't heat the pans. If something is getting hot but not hot enough it's either a thermostat that has failed or if it's an induction hob you are using the wrong sort of pan.

I haven't used the main oven since my wife died nearly five years ago - I just use a Ninja and the microwave. The oven gets used as stoirage space.


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Dextrous63

A trip on one circuit may well trip the RCD protector and thus all circuits it covers.   It used to be the case that consumer units had two bus bars with one being rcd protected and having ring circuits, kitchen and/or electric showers on them, and the other one not being protected and having eg light circuits (and others which were less likely to get in contact with a human).  I think that nowadays, these too are RCD protected.

Ashy

It's occurred to me that some distribution boxes are half RCD and half conventional. Cookers have to go in the conventional because they are normally leaky.

klondike

If it's really old it could still be plug in fuses and no RCD at all...

Everything on mine is RCD protected. I had the house rewired as part of the modernisation work after I inherited it before moving in.


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Mups

My word,  you are a clever lot. 

Ask me about animals or plant life, cuttings and growing,  and I'm your man (or woman  :smiley:)  but anything  technical is foreign to me and my head goes blank.  It can even give me a headache worrying and trying to absorb stuff.  Useless ey.  :rolleyes: 

klondike

I checked mine and I was wrong. Although the cooker is separate a couple of other circuits share the same RCD. Only one circuit isn't RCD protected and that is the cellar lighting where the meter is. I remember discussing that with the sparky at the time.



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Alex

Good grief do you need an  ' O ' Level to work that out  ?    Mine is nothing like that, but it's about 40 years old.

Mups


Klondike,  that box of yours is much the same as mine.

klondike

That was put in in 2009. I doubt the regulations have changed greatly since. I'm not sure when the old push in wire fuses were phased out in favour of trip switches or RCDs were added but I'm sure I've had something similar all the while I've owned a house. 

I thought that my cooker and shower were both served entirely separately both being high power individually fed units but looking at it now I see they share RCDs with other circuits. If yours is done the same I can see how the cooker element failing could trip all the circuits on the same RCD just as old lightbulbs sometimes did.


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Mups

Quote from: klondike on October 07, 2025, 10:32:00 PMThat was put in in 2009. I doubt the regulations have changed greatly since. I'm not sure when the old push in wire fuses were phased out in favour of trip switches or RCDs were added but I'm sure I've had something similar all the while I've owned a house.

I thought that my cooker and shower were both served entirely separately both being high power individually fed units but looking at it now I see they share RCDs with other circuits. If yours is done the same I can see how the cooker element failing could trip all the circuits on the same RCD just as old lightbulbs sometimes did.
I think my one would have been put in in about 2007/8  too.

The cooker chap is coming to see what parts are needed on Thursday.  £60 labour charge,  and roughly  £20-ish for the part,  that's assuming it is an element.   Will know more when he's been and had a look. 

Scrumpy

Don't ask me.. I know nuffink..

klondike

It's just a consumer unit. You'd better find yours in cast it trips like Mup's did...


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