Andrew

[Scrumpy]

This made me chuckle...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNd3gD4cy/

 How quickly an amusing link can be put together...

[Alex]

      

[Dextrous63]

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[klondike]

[Michael Rolls]

stripping of dukedoms, etc, fair enough - what the hierarchy can give, it can also take away, but I don't see how a prince title can be taken away - not allowed to use it, yes, but a legitimate child of a monarch is a prince or princess - simple fact

[Mups]

stripping of dukedoms, etc, fair enough - what the hierarchy can give, it can also take away, but I don't see how a prince title can be taken away - not allowed to use it, yes, but a legitimate child of a monarch is a prince or princess - simple fact

I suppose Charles had to be seen to do something,  with half the population baying for blood.
I feel a bit sorry for Charles in a way,  because now he has  probably alienated both his brother as well as his ginger-haired  son,  so possibly two sets of grandchildren he now won't see much of in future.
Can't be a lot of fun, can it.

I wonder if Andrew's  daughters are still 'Princess;s'?

[Dextrous63]

Hmmmmmm!!

I've long since (kinda) come to terms with our son estranging us, since it's what he needed/needs to do for his own peace of mind. 

If Charles giving his brother the boot is what's needed for his own relative peace, not only personally but as his "profession" as monarch, then who are we to judge?

[JBR]

Not true.

Anyway, once Charles passes, the new king will no doubt deal with his own brother.

Now that's a good idea.

October 31, 2025, 09:21:21 PM

stripping of dukedoms, etc, fair enough - what the hierarchy can give, it can also take away, but I don't see how a prince title can be taken away - not allowed to use it, yes, but a legitimate child of a monarch is a prince or princess - simple fact

That is perfectly correct, and I have read comments recently which still refer to him as Prince Andrew.

[Raven]

I may not like him but he's still a Prince as far as I'm concerned. I also believe it's William who's the one doing all the pushing and shoving not Charles. People say how wonderful William is but not in my mind, I hear he's got one hell of a temper if things don't go his own way.
Also that Virginia's family are doing a lot of shouting, why? How the RF deal with Andrew is up to them nothing to do with her brother.

Sorry if my view upsets you, but It's what I think and feel, despite others  saying I'm ignorant because of it. But I'm allowed my view as it everyone else.

[Dextrous63]

Raven, if you discovered that a family member had carried out potentially dubious sexual acts, lied about it and been shown as a demonstrable liar and possible deviant with zero remorse, would you still consider them a member of the family?

[Mups]

I may not like him but he's still a Prince as far as I'm concerned. I also believe it's William who's the one doing all the pushing and shoving not Charles. People say how wonderful William is but not in my mind, I hear he's got one hell of a temper if things don't go his own way.
Also that Virginia's family are doing a lot of shouting, why? How the RF deal with Andrew is up to them nothing to do with her brother.

Sorry if my view upsets you, but It's what I think and feel, despite others  saying I'm ignorant because of it. But I'm allowed my view as it everyone else.

I don't know who has said you are 'ignorant'  Raven,  but that sounds  uncalled for.  
You are as much entitled to post your views as anyone else.    

[Dextrous63]

Quite right Mups.  I missed the claims of R's ignorance.

I'm not entirely sure of precedence, but kings of the past didn't always have a clear genetic/primogeniture right. With that in mind, removing someone from the "gene pool" isn't necessarily a problem.

But, then again, if some wish to refer to Andrew as a prince, then fair enough,

[Raven]

Raven, if you discovered that a family member had carried out potentially dubious sexual acts, lied about it and been shown as a demonstrable liar and possible deviant with zero remorse, would you still consider them a member of the family?

In all honesty Dex I don't know.
Selling sex is one of the oldest trades in the world, and it's not going to go away.

[Mups]

In all honesty Dex I don't know.
Selling sex is one of the oldest trades in the world, and it's not going to go away.

I agree.   
And it never will 'go away'    not as long as the men are willing to pay for it.

[Dextrous63]

In all honesty Dex I don't know.
Selling sex is one of the oldest trades in the world, and it's not going to go away.

Fair enough.  I guess it's sort of down to what one views as an acceptable age (which is a relatively arbitrary concept in terms of maturity) of consent, coupled with the similar facets of the older, er, "coupler".

Whether the younger is in relative position of abuse or not and the elder is in a position of abuse of his/her position is the question, I guess. 

I know, from personal experience, that nowadays when I tutor 6th form students, I can't help but reflect on the fact that "if only I were 10 years younger, I'd still be thrice their age".

Bit of a bleeding wake up call, if you ask me !!!

October 31, 2025, 10:44:06 PM

I agree. 
And it will never 'go away'  as long as the men have got the money and pay up.

Now then, this is a can of worms.  You seem to be excusing the concept of "normal" behaviour.  By doing so, aren't you basically saying "anything goes"?

Addenda- men may pay up, but by definition females accept the payment .  What does that say?