Illegals - Latest Harebrained Idea

[Alex]

The Government has confirmed a pilot scheme is being considered to deport migrants who cross the English Channel, in exchange for the UK accepting asylum seekers with 'legitimate' claims who are in France .

APPARENTLY it will be a one-for-one swap, enabling undocumented asylum seekers who have reached the UK by small boat to be returned to France.  In exchange we would take migrants who "have a right"  to be in the UK from the French.

My questions are, what happens to the people we return to France, are they released in Calais to try their luck again in a dinghy  ?  Also what does 'have a right to be here mean' ?  All they need to say is they have a brother in Leicester or Bradford called Mohammed and it'll be 'ok come on in, bring your family too'

  

[Ashy]

This should have been nipped in the bud. Instead of that we have a government with no more idea what to do with it than how to fly.

[Mups]

The Government has confirmed a pilot scheme is being considered to deport migrants who cross the English Channel, in exchange for the UK accepting asylum seekers with 'legitimate' claims who are in France .

APPARENTLY it will be a one-for-one swap, enabling undocumented asylum seekers who have reached the UK by small boat to be returned to France.  In exchange we would take migrants who "have a right"  to be in the UK from the French.

My questions are, what happens to the people we return to France, are they released in Calais to try their luck again in a dinghy  ?  Also what does 'have a right to be here mean' ?  All they need to say is they have a brother in Leicester or Bradford called Mohammed and it'll be 'ok come on in, bring your family too'

  

They will just be on the next available dinghy back again.

[dextrous63]

Deport, to where?

[klondike]

France - that's where they came from so let them sort it out.

If somebody arrives on a plane without the right to enter they are put on the next plane back.

[JBR]

The fact is that France has been doing the dirty on us for years now.  To make matters worse, our idiot politicians have been paying France hand over fist to prevent the illegals leaving their shore.  The illegals have been coming and still are, in ever increasing numbers.  What fools we are.

Who in their right mind would now trust the French to do anything that might benefit us?

No more deals.  The best thing we can now do - and do it legally - is to prevent any small boats crossing our legal border along the English Channel, just as the Australians did at the northern sea borders of their country.

The next thing is to stop giving to those illegals now here anything more than the French give to their illegals.  I believe that illegals in France live in tents, if they can get them, and are given very little.  Comparatively, we house them in hotels and give them far more than our own home less receive.  Of course they all want to come here.

We must make this country LESS attractive to them than France, and ignore the criticisms from the many do-gooders here.

[dextrous63]

France - that's where they came from so let them sort it out.

If somebody arrives on a plane without the right to enter they are put on the next plane back.

Who determines whether they have a right to come here?  'Cos that sounds mighty iffy to me.

[klondike]

We determine who is allowed to come here. Who else?

[dextrous63]

We determine who is allowed to come here. Who else?

The French?  
At what stage when they land here will they otherwise be vetted?  If not checked in France (or wherever) for their eligibility, then I'm struggling to see any difference to what's already supposed to be in place, unless the French have curiously suddenly agreed to take the whole lot, lock, stock and barrel?

[JBR]

The French? 
At what stage when they land here will they otherwise be vetted?  If not checked in France (or wherever) for their eligibility, then I'm struggling to see any difference to what's already supposed to be in place, unless the French have curiously suddenly agreed to take the whole lot, lock, stock and barrel?

The ideal is not to let them cross our sea borders.  Can I set off across the Channel to France and hope that no-one minds, or better still, can I hope to be housed for free in a four star hotel?

We are the fools of Europe.  No-one else allows foreigners to cross their borders without the necessary permission...
well, except for EU countries who seem happy to let anyone and everyone cross their national borders.  
We are not in the EU, so we have not agreed to allow free crossings of our border, well, except for our anti-British government who are happy to turn a blind eye.

[klondike]

The French? 
At what stage when they land here will they otherwise be vetted?  If not checked in France (or wherever) for their eligibility, then I'm struggling to see any difference to what's already supposed to be in place, unless the French have curiously suddenly agreed to take the whole lot, lock, stock and barrel?

The French check SFA before they come here. Are you under some odd delusion that there are passport checks, tickets and boarding passes before the French allow them to set sail in a dinghy?

If they arrive in a dinghy (alive) then they came from France illegally and should be returned. Of course the French will object to that. Maybe we should smuggle them back in.

[JBR]

The French check SFA before they come here. Are you under some odd delusion that there are passport checks, tickets and boarding passes before the French allow them to set sail in a dinghy?

If they arrive in a dinghy (alive) then they came from France illegally and should be returned. Of course the French will object to that. Maybe we should smuggle them back in.

The real problem that exists regarding English Channel crossing is, quite simply, the anti-British French.

Never trust the French.

[dextrous63]

I think we're all pretty much in agreement on this.

Don't suppose this is an idea (or idée, as we're talking French ici) that Lammy has come up with?  It sounds stupid enough.

[muddy]

Another 700 came yesterday .
My heart sinks .
What use are all these austerity measures when we have all these incubi arriving on a weekly basis ? 

[dextrous63]

It's a mystery.  Just about every poll I've seen of late suggests that 80+% of the population are pissed off by it. 

Heck, enough people were so peeved that it was a significant contribution to Brexit.

It is a significant contribution to the rise of Reform.

It led to riots in the streets last year.

And still our politicians refuse to do anything meaningful about it.