New Law For Dogs.

[Raven]

I have to say I agree with this, but I'd go even further and fine the ass off unregistered breeders. Also I'd have all pets either spayed or Neutered unless belonging to a registered breeder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq9g31v88ro

[dextrous63]

What's realspeed's view of it?  Didn't he run a kennel of some sort?

[Mups]

That's interesting, Raven.

Some of these 'strays'  that rescues take in could be either dumped and abandoned dogs,  or simply dogs that have escaped from a good home,  because there are many Houdini's in the dog world.

One likes to think any reputable rescue checks microchips first and foremost.  So any that are not chipped is a crime in itself nowadays.  Does that apply to up where you are, too?
Do they enforce chipping in the law in Scotland?

Another problem for checking chips though, is there are currently about 15 databases to rake through.
To me, this is wrong.   There should only be one main database to check,  and then perhaps more owners would be traced, and quicker.
Also many owners either forget, or don't bother,  to change chip details when they move house,  or new owners haven't got a clue they must change details of ownership when taking a new dog too.
Bit like changing ownership of a new car.

Regarding this new law,  did it say it will take another 12 months to come into force?   
Won't it just do what the breeders should have done in the first place!

I used to breed my dogs a long time ago.   First of all my beautiful German Shepherds, and later on my little Bedlingtons which I still have now but no longer breed. 
 I had my own affix registered with the Kennel Club for many years.

I can honestly say that not one of my puppies ever left me unless I had quizzed the prospective new  owner thoroughly first.   

e.g.  Why did they want a dog,   had they had one before,  had they got small children,  did they work full time, what the maximum time the pup would be left for each day,  did they have an enclosed garden,  etc. etc.
If I wasn't happy with the answers,  then they didn't get a pup.
They then left home with a diet sheet,  some food, a toy, and a small piece of bedding that smelled of his Mum to hopefully help him settle first night.

They also had to sign paperwork to say if they weren't happy with the pup for any reason, it had to be returned to me, and not passed on or resold elsewhere.

If breeders were more concerned about their pup's future than they were about just grabbing the money,  they might be no need for the new law in the first place.

[Cassandra]

I have to say I agree with this, but I'd go even further and fine the ass off unregistered breeders. Also I'd have all pets either spayed or Neutered unless belonging to a registered breeder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceq9g31v88ro

Well said, I completely agree

[Raven]

That's interesting, Raven.

Some of these 'strays'  that rescues take in could be either dumped and abandoned dogs,  or simply dogs that have escaped from a good home,  because there are many Houdini's in the dog world.

One likes to think any reputable rescue checks microchips first and foremost.  So any that are not chipped is a crime in itself nowadays.  Does that apply to up where you are, too?
Do they enforce chipping in the law in Scotland?

Another problem for checking chips though, is there are currently about 15 databases to rake through.
To me, this is wrong.   There should only be one main database to check,  and then perhaps more owners would be traced, and quicker.
Also many owners either forget, or don't bother,  to change chip details when they move house,  or new owners haven't got a clue they must change details of ownership when taking a new dog too.
Bit like changing ownership of a new car.

Regarding this new law,  did it say it will take another 12 months to come into force?   
Won't it just do what the breeders should have done in the first place!

I used to breed my dogs a long time ago.   First of all my beautiful German Shepherds, and later on my little Bedlingtons which I still have now but no longer breed. 
 I had my own affix registered with the Kennel Club for many years.

I can honestly say that not one of my puppies ever left me unless I had quizzed the prospective new  owner thoroughly first.   

e.g.  Why did they want a dog,   had they had one before,  had they got small children,  did they work full time, what the maximum time the pup would be left for each day,  did they have an enclosed garden,  etc. etc.
If I wasn't happy with the answers,  then they didn't get a pup.
They then left home with a diet sheet,  some food, a toy, and a small piece of bedding that smelled of his Mum to hopefully help him settle first night.

They also had to sign paperwork to say if they weren't happy with the pup for any reason, it had to be returned to me, and not passed on or resold elsewhere.

If breeders were more concerned about their pup's future than they were about just grabbing the money,  they might be no need for the new law in the first place.

My parents were registered breeders of Old English Sheepdogs, their Pedigree name registered with the Kennel Club was Tanglehar. I took it over when I rescued Maggie and she was pregnant.
People told me it was easier to adopt a child than get a pup from me lol. But I was so careful and did a lot of checks. Like you each pup left me with a box of stuff and also a towel the litter had slept on. I did get one of Maggies pups back for several months because the owner became ill, but Shannon went back to her home eventually. I kept in touch with the people who got a pup throughout their lives,and helped out if they wanted/needed.
Working with the Scottish Old English Sheepdog Rescue for many years taught me an awful lot, also how to deal with owners who were not the greatest.
This is our old house sign.

[Mups]

My parents were registered breeders of Old English Sheepdogs, their Pedigree name registered with the Kennel Club was Tanglehar. I took it over when I rescued Maggie and she was pregnant.
People told me it was easier to adopt a child than get a pup from me lol. But I was so careful and did a lot of checks. I did get one of Maggies pups back for several months because the owner became ill, but Shannon went back to her home eventually. I kept in touch with the people who got a pup throughout their lives,and helped out if they wanted/needed.
Working with the Scottish Old English Sheepdog Rescue for many years taught me an awful lot, also how to deal with owners who were not the greatest.
This is our old house sign.

Yep,  I understand where you're coming from. 

One of my Shepherds went down to the Met. police once.   He came home again after a while because they couldn't get him to bite!    I told them mine were bred for temperament,  not for biting people.
It's only that this copper was recommended to me that I let him go there in the first place.

[Raven]

Glad you got him back. I thought the police had their own breeding kennels for their working dogs.
This is Maggies Puppies out in the evening sun. Sorry it's none too clear it was video taped then copies off the tele with my phone, before phone cameras got good.. But it's a memory.

[1955vintage]

Some breeds need an owner who understands the breed's 'peculiarities' such as basset hounds. They are contrary,stubborn,wilfully disobedient , flatulent, greedy and the most loving cuddle bunnies you will ever meet.

You need a sense of humour with them.

Screening potential owners is crucial. Basset hound rescue is very busy. They have short coats but need careful grooming, especially around their ears.

[klondike]

They are contrary,stubborn,wilfully disobedient , flatulent, greedy and the most loving cuddle bunnies you will ever meet.

Apart from the last bit that seems to describe me reasonably well 

[1955vintage]

Especially flatulent 

[klondike]

I do have a detector for that....

[Mups]

Raven, before these boys lower the tone too much,        may I attempt to get back to the thread? 

They are lovely videos,  memories forever, thank you.    Gorgeous puppies,  they look so cuddly.

Tell me something about your breed though,  does the hair over the adults eyes cause any eye problems?
I imagine it to feel like us trying to get on with our day with our fringe down to our chin. 
Not only would that be so annoying,  but could it damage sight in the long run?

[Raven]

It's the same with Sheepies Mups, it's believed they can see through the fringe but they can't really, Bently was always bumping into things if it got too thick. It's the reason you often see a full coated one with a bobble in it's hair giving the dog full vision. It never caused any of my lot eye damage but I guess some dogs may have bother at times.
I used thinning scissors on mine so there was never much there to worry them.

[Mups]

It's the same with Sheepies Mups, it's believed they can see through the fringe but they can't really, Bently was always bumping into things if it got too thick. It's the reason you often see a full coated one with a bobble in it's hair giving the dog full vision. It never caused any of my lot eye damage but I guess some dogs may have bother at times.
I used thinning scissors on mine so there was never much there to worry them.

Another stupid rule by the show judges and the KC, I expect.  Poor dogs.

Many of these 'breed standards'  are ridiculous,  and don't have the dog in mind at all.  Winning red rosettes and fame is more important to some.

[Mups]

One of my litters, Raven.   Many years ago now.