P C Silliness !

[Silver Tabby]

While playing cards with friends - whom I had considered reasonably sensible - I was told off - twice!
Once for calling this card the Knave of Hearts - as in the swine who nicked the Queen's jam tarts,  and once for saying he was the wrong colour - which, in the game we were playing, he was. 

Apparently his name is Jack but, as we hadn't been introduced, how was I supposed to know?  And I shouldn't have said we needed a black card - should have asked for a club or a spade card.  The game ended abruptly.

How much sillier is the world going to become??

[dextrous63]

You racist pig.

Klondy, ban this white honkeytonk immediately.

[GrannyMac]

🤣🤣

I always knew it as the Jack. K,Q,J? 

[klondike]

Ludicrous. How old were the idiots? 

[Scrumpy]

You racist pig.

Klondy, ban this white honkeytonk immediately.

[Alex]

From a Jack to a King... La la la la

[Scrumpy]

Silver Tabby

Invite them to play BlackJack.. 

[Mups]

I must admit,  like GrannyMac,  I have only ever called it a 'Jack'  too.

Hence the big 'J'  on the corners of the card? 

[dextrous63]

IIRC, the card was originally called a knave, but changed to Jack through the generalised loss of the word Knave, coupled with the letter K and J not always being easily distinguished in the "fonts" of the time.

So, Tabby, you were correct to refer to him as a knave.

One can only wildly surmise that there was some concern that a black could also be viewed as a knave/rascal/crook too.

[JBR]

Although I am quite aware of the optional name of 'Knave', I and everyone else I know have always used the word 'Jack'.

I don't know about 'PC', but I suppose the two names are interchangeable.  On the other hand, I feel that 'Knave' is rather more posh; the sort of word which Royalty would routinely use!

[klondike]

I suspect the confusion would more likely be caused by King starting with a K. I've heard both but Jack is now the norm. I fail to see anything non PC about using the word Knave. Problems with calling cards in the suits traditionally coloured black black cards suggests some form of mental illness to me.

[dextrous63]

Personally, I'd be more worried about the word "trump" being used as an implication of superiority, given the somewhat obvious USA situation.

I'd also suggest that anyone who insisted that I solely used the term Jack and avoid the word Black card, ought to take themselves and their imbecilic puerility and shove it right up their red knaves'ies.😬

[Silver Tabby]

You racist pig.

Klondy, ban this white honkeytonk immediately.

I love you too - you rascally knave!





May 23, 2024, 11:34:56 AM
Some lovely answers here, thank you all, apart from Dex - and I'll deal with him later!

I grew up knowing the cards as Knaves from the old nursery rhyme - so I have always called them thus without ever thinking it incorrect or impolite.

It wrecked a good game of Gin Rummy anyway, which is sad because I was winning - hey ho !!

[JBR]

I suspect the confusion would more likely be caused by King starting with a K. I've heard both but Jack is now the norm. I fail to see anything non PC about using the word Knave. Problems with calling cards in the suits traditionally coloured black black cards suggests some form of mental illness to me.

In this present 'PC Age', I fully expect that words such as 'Black' will soon be outlawed.

I just wonder what alternative word would be acceptable.  After all, there are many things in this world which are black in colour, so they're going to have their work cut out to find an 'acceptable' word which could be put into practical use.

[Scrumpy]

What will we call  'A little black dress'? If the word BLACK disappears from our  vocabulary....
And 'Blackout Blinds' and no more Black Magic..