Reform.

[JBR]

Personally, I think that TwoTier should resign out of embarrassment and call an early general election.

[Raven]

Personally, I think that TwoTier should resign out of embarrassment and call an early general election.

On that we agree. 💯

[Michael Rolls]

Absolutely, but it won't happen

[muddy]

Who would we elect?
Farage will revert to being a Tory once elected .
Ben Habib ?
Rupert Lowe ?
We need a strong decisive leader but where is he or she ?

Maybe Tony Abbott would like the job .

[klondike]

Replace Farage and it won't matter who leads because they wouldn't get elected IMO.

I saw a suggestion that Labour may take a chance on PR. They know they got a big majority on just over 30& of the vote and it looks like Reform would too right now. Labour would maybe retain more seats on PR. There would need to be referendum first I think and doubtless Reform would point out why it was being suggested. Given the current mix of onanists in the other 4 parties I'm not sure I'd vote in favour of PR. Certainly not the system the LibDems wanted that would have left them permanently in government as a minor partner in a coalition.

[Michael Rolls]

They tried to get it as part of the coalition package and it was rejected. What system would be really fair? First past the post can be grossly misleading, but what else?

[klondike]

There are several forms of PR.

From ChatGPT...

Here's a concise list of the main types of proportional representation (PR) voting systems, each with a brief explanation:

Party-List PR – Voters choose a party; seats are allocated to parties in proportion to their vote share.

Closed-List – Voters pick a party only; the party decides which candidates get the seats.

Open-List – Voters can influence which individual candidates from a party's list are elected.

Single Transferable Vote (STV) – Voters rank candidates; votes are transferred until seats are filled proportionally.

Mixed-Member Proportional (MMP) – Combines single-member district elections with party-list seats to ensure overall proportionality.

Additional Member System (AMS) – A variant of MMP used in the UK; adds regional "top-up" seats to correct disproportional results.

Dual Member Proportional (DMP) – Each district elects two members; the second is chosen to balance overall proportionality.

Parallel Voting (Semi-PR) – Voters have two votes (district and party list), but list seats don't fully correct disproportionality.

Furthermore ....

The 2011 UK referendum did not propose a proportional representation system. It proposed switching from First Past the Post (FPTP) to the Alternative Vote (AV) — also called Instant-Runoff Voting.

AV is not proportional representation. It's a majoritarian system where voters rank candidates by preference, and votes are redistributed until one candidate has over 50%.

So:

System proposed: Alternative Vote (AV)

Type: Majoritarian (not PR)

Result: Rejected — about 68% voted "No".

[JBR]

In my view, any proportional representation system is important.  Personally, I am not too bothered about who personally represents my area, as that is more influenced by the local council officials.

There are two concerns: our local area is one thing, but the national government is a completely different thing and the country as a whole is, in my opinion, the more important of the two.