Nigel Has a Plan........Or Two

[Raven]

All very well said, but can he actually do it? The Rowanda Plan was all set to go but was stopped by The Court of Human Rights, Nigal will have to face the same people, same arguments, same rows. 🤷

BBC News - Nigel Farage says illegal migration is a 'scourge'
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yk4r5e514o

Make that two plans.

BBC News - Reform UK would pay countries for migrant return deals - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yk4r5e514o

[klondike]

He's saying he will withdraw from the human rights convention I think which will remove us from the jurisdiction of the Court of Human Rights. Something like that anyway putting our borders under the control of out courts. 

If he gains power then we will see but I fail to see how it can be any worse that is happening now even if he fails dismally. We know that all the mainstream parties seem to favour open borders,

[JBR]

He's saying he will withdraw from the human rights convention I think which will remove us from the jurisdiction of the Court of Human Rights. Something like that anyway putting our borders under the control of out courts.

If he gains power then we will see but I fail to see how it can be any worse that is happening now even if he fails dismally. We know that all the mainstream parties seem to favour open borders,

More fools them.  Actually, more fools us for voting for them.
So at the end of the day, we get exactly what we have voted for.  We have the opportunity to restore our country, but not for four more years of destruction.  Even then, having seen all the protesters with their 'Palestine' flags, who knows?
At our age, and certainly for those of us who have no children, what will be will be.  I shall certainly vote for Reform.

[Raven]

He's certainly got a different way of thinking about how to stop the illegal migrants, I just hope to hell he can follow through.

[Diasi]

He's saying he will withdraw from the human rights convention I think which will remove us from the jurisdiction of the Court of Human Rights. Something like that anyway putting our borders under the control of out courts.

If he gains power then we will see but I fail to see how it can be any worse that is happening now even if he fails dismally. We know that all the mainstream parties seem to favour open borders,

I heard it that he would remove the UK from the ECHR & the international refugee legislation & remove the UK courts & Judges from the appeals process which would no longer exist for illegal immigrants.

August 26, 2025, 01:13:44 PM

More fools them.  Actually, more fools us for voting for them.

Well neither you nor I are fools as we didn't vote them in.

[klondike]

I heard it that he would remove the UK from the ECHR & the international refugee legislation & remove the UK courts & Judges from the appeals process which would no longer exist for illegal immigrants.

May well have been that. I know that he was going to change our commitments and legislation to cut out the ECHR and stop all the lefty lawyer interference. I'm unsure of the actual changes needed to do that but I'm pretty sure that Reform aren't. Of course they would still have the House of Lords to deal with which is jam packed with peers who will doubtless oppose anything like this. Will it work? Who knows until it is tried. We know what success the others have had with "Smash the Gangs" and prior to that the Rwanda scheme.

[klondike]

Found this report on Reform plans...

...here's what we have to do to make Operation Restoring Justice actually work. We have to leave the [European Court of Human Justice], no ifs and no buts. It may have been a good idea 80 years ago, but frankly it isn't today. We have to repeal the Human Rights Act of 1998, brought in by a Blair government, many of whose families seemed to do well off the back of it.

We will for a five-year-period disapply the 1951 refugee convention and any other barriers that can be used by lawyers in this country to prevent deportations, to prevent the right thing from happening. We will create a legal duty for the Home Secretary to remove those who come illegally. And crucially we will detain all illegal migrants who come, and we will do so immediately.

The only way we will stop the boats is by detaining and deporting absolutely anyone who comes by that route. And if we do that, the boats will stop within days because there will be no incentive to pay a trafficker to get into this country. If you come to the UK illegally, you will be detained and deported and never, ever allowed to stay. Period. That is our big message.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/08/26/farage-elect-me-and-ill-create-uk-deportation-command-to-track-down-all-illegal-migrants-in-the-uk/

[Michael Rolls]

one can but hope

[Raven]

Sounds like a plan, but not to throw cold water on it......If klondike can find that information then so can the people who will want to stop him.
They IMO will stop at nothing and may well be busy planning already..
Interesting times ahead.

[Alex]

I like his idea for countries that refuse to take back their citizens, he will stop issuing visas to those countries and any foreign aid would be stopped.  C'mon Nige !!!

[Michael Rolls]

Here's hoping

[klondike]

[GrannyMac]

JRM 👏🏼👏🏼 Talking sense.  But can we hang on til the next election?

[Dextrous63]

Retrospective removals would be good.  I'd start with anyone who came over on a dinghy, out of principles

Anyway, unless some miracle happens before then, I think the next GE will be a "well worth a punt" one.

[JBR]

JRM talks a great deal of sense and, although a Conservative MP, is likely to agree with and support the next Reform UK government.
There have been suggestions that he ought to leave the Conservatives and join Reform.  In my opinion, that is irrelevant.  As long as his constituents support him in the next GE and he remains an MP, I have every confidence that he would support what Reform proposes, in fact, what this country desperately needs.