Chagos

Started by Alex, August 11, 2025, 03:14:19 PM

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Alex

Well well, Starmer caught out in another whopper !   After telling us handing over Chagos would cost us
£3.4 billion turns out it will cost £35 BILLION.   How did he get that so wrong ?

Is he just a liar or stupid - or both  ?

Dextrous63

Inept.

Mind you, as this no doubt has Lammy's involvement, no wonder it's a complete balls up.

JBR

Although he likes to blame the Conservatives preceding him, Starmer is the one who is really destroying this country.
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Dextrous63

He started off with a black hole of around 12billion, which immediately increased to 20billion after sorting out the strikes, which (a few days ago) was reported as approaching 50billion, and now Chagos will make it worse along with the ongoing immigration nonsense and the increasing public unrest/disorder.

I don't recall any government making such a hash of things so soon into office.

Michael Rolls

Quote from: Dextrous63 on August 11, 2025, 04:45:27 PMHe started off with a black hole of around 12billion, which immediately increased to 20billion after sorting out the strikes, which (a few days ago) was reported as approaching 50billion, and now Chagos will make it worse along with the ongoing immigration nonsense and the increasing public unrest/disorder.

I don't recall any government making such a hash of things so soon into office.

Callaghan, although it took him a bit longer
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Dextrous63

Quote from: Michael Rolls on August 11, 2025, 09:03:20 PMCallaghan, although it took him a bit longer
I fear I may be too young to recall that.  Was that the winter of discontent, electricity blackouts etc?

Michael Rolls

no - going begging to the IMF
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klondike

Worth reading about the results. It will give you a better idea of what is coming. 

I wonder if we'll be hearing reassurances about the pound in our pockets again. Be a bit hard to sell that with the majority of our food being imported these days.

Might stir up a bit more resentment about the dinghy boys too. 

JBR

Quote from: klondike on August 12, 2025, 07:56:49 AMWorth reading about the results. It will give you a better idea of what is coming.

I wonder if we'll be hearing reassurances about the pound in our pockets again. Be a bit hard to sell that with the majority of our food being imported these days.

Might stir up a bit more resentment about the dinghy boys too.
There is already a lot of resentment about the daily arrival of so many illegals and how they are rewarded for coming here in their masses.
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Ashy

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Quote from: Dextrous63 on August 11, 2025, 09:31:12 PMI fear I may be too young to recall that.  Was that the winter of discontent, electricity blackouts etc?
The famous "Winter of discontent" was a period in the winter of 1978/9 when a public employees union went on strike. This was a period of much higher inflation than we have seen recently and men needed more money. It led to rubbish piling up in the streets and even funeral services including cremations, being curtailed.

The following Thatcher government tackled the problem by making strike action difficult or impossible, forcing unions to spend large amounts of money on ballots and court actions, and banning secondary action, restricting picketing and ending closed shop agreements. They went on to dispose of much of the industry that Britain had been famous for.

The power cuts that many people recall, occurred under the previous government (Heath 1970-74) when the coal miners went on strike and picketed power stations to stop deliveries of coal. They were not officially supported by the electricians' union but power was cut from areas in order to reduce the demand. Some industries were required to work no more than three days a week.

Dextrous63

Thanks for that Ashy.  I was too young at the time to really know (or care) what was going on.  In 1979 I'd have been a sprightly, and totally ignorant, 16 year old.  I wouldn't have been in a position to have made an informed political decision.  Strange how the current view is that such obliviousness is sufficient for 16 year old to be allowed to vote.

JBR

Quote from: Ashy on August 12, 2025, 09:16:44 AMThe following Thatcher government tackled the problem by making strike action difficult or impossible, forcing unions to spend large amounts of money on ballots and court actions, and banning secondary action, restricting picketing and ending closed shop agreements. They went on to dispose of much of the industry that Britain had been famous for.

Another example of how she was our best PM ever since Churchill.  Since she was stabbed in the back by her own colleagues and party, we have not had a half-decent leader.  In fact, some of them, especially Bliar and of course TwoTier Keir, have caused many problems for us without any help from the left-wing unions.
We desperately need a new 'Thatcher' to put things right, and I hope that Farage can do that a.s.a.p.
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Michael Rolls

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