Who is the biggest threat to the UK ?

Started by Alex, June 25, 2025, 02:32:32 PM

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Alex


Vlad


klondike


Scrumpy

China..

My mum and Churchill (quoted)..  'Look to the East'
Don't ask me.. I know nuffink..

JBR

Muslims.  They will take over our country, given time.
More will come, and they breed like rabbits.
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muddy


Alex

I can understand all of those - apart from one, how on earth is America the biggest threat to the UK  ? :rolleyes:
or perhaps I shouldn't ask  :smiley:

klondike

I'd guess the worry is that the somewhat erratic moods of Trump could lead to the breakup of Nato just when it is starting to look like the reason  it was set up may be coming to fruition. You maybe read today that finally there is agreement that all members will be spending 5% of their GDPs on their militaries. That wasn't because they are all concerned about Iran and Trump seems to be reluctant to recognise who is the reason for that 5%.

JBR

Quote from: klondike on June 25, 2025, 10:38:51 PMI'd guess the worry is that the somewhat erratic moods of Trump could lead to the breakup of Nato just when it is starting to look like the reason  it was set up may be coming to fruition. You maybe read today that finally there is agreement that all members will be spending 5% of their GDPs on their militaries. That wasn't because they are all concerned about Iran and Trump seems to be reluctant to recognise who is the reason for that 5%.
Perhaps, but if NATO breaks up, NATO minus the US is toothless and could be easy meat for Russia.

There are a few countries, Poland is an example, which are putting far more into defence than most of Europe, including the UK. 
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muddy

And some like Spain who pay less 2% I believe and refuse to pay more .

Michael Rolls

Quote from: JBR on June 25, 2025, 11:19:49 PMPerhaps, but if NATO breaks up, NATO minus the US is toothless and could be easy meat for Russia.

There are a few countries, Poland is an example, which are putting far more into defence than most of Europe, including the UK.
Not totally toothless. Th French and ourselves have nukes.
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klondike

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Quote from: JBR on June 25, 2025, 11:19:49 PMPerhaps, but if NATO breaks up, NATO minus the US is toothless and could be easy meat for Russia.
Which is exactly the reason I suggested someone may nominate America (or more accurately Trump) as the biggest threat to the UK.

Yesterday at 07:32:16 AM
Quote from: Michael Rolls on Yesterday at 06:31:19 AMNot totally toothless. Th French and ourselves have nukes.
Do you honestly think either would actually use them? I don't because despite Starmer and Macron both are essentially sensible. The same cannot be said of all - primarily Iran and North Korea both doubtless given the technology by Russia in exchange for support against Ukraine. I think the Indians and Pakistanis would restrict themselves to tactical nukes against each other. Possession is why Russia is getting away with its aggression and why I doubt anybody will seriously interfere with China invading Taiwan. It's the threat of nukes and certainly not their use that brings power.

Michael Rolls

Quote from: klondike on Yesterday at 07:26:04 AMWhich is exactly the reason I suggested someone may nominate America (or more accurately Trump) as the biggest threat to the UK.

Yesterday at 07:32:16 AMDo you honestly think either would actually use them? I don't because despite Starmer and Macron both are essentially sensible. The same cannot be said of all - primarily Iran and North Korea both doubtless given the technology by Russia in exchange for support against Ukraine. I think the Indians and Pakistanis would restrict themselves to tactical nukes against each other. Possession is why Russia is getting away with its aggression and why I doubt anybody will seriously interfere with China invading Taiwan. It's the threat of nukes and certainly not their use that brings power.
Exactly. Mutually assured destruction
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muddy


JBR

Quote from: muddy on Yesterday at 08:57:08 AMhttps://x.com/ReturnofColin2/status/1937900452345184573
True.
Christianity was spread by missionaries, who tended to persuade other people by helping them.
Muslim 'missionaries' seem to persuade other people by invading their countries (sometimes with help from the likes of TwoTierKeir) and increasing their numbers so that they can take over by force.
It's coming to Britain, sure as eggs is eggs.
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