Greta Thunberg

Started by Alex, June 09, 2025, 04:38:07 PM

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Alex

Another media event from Greta who's now been ' detained' by the Israeli navy :cool:    I hope while she's with the Israelis, they show her video footage of October 7th.   Better still don't take her back to Sweden, drop her off in Gaza !

klondike

I've an idea that's where she was heading from a brief bit of news I heard but didn't give my full attention to.

Alex

I should have said drop her off with Hamas

JBR

She should certainly have been allowed to arrive in Gaza.  Best way for the little fool to learn some sense.
Numquam credere Gallicum

muddy

Little she might be but her arrogance along with that of her brain dead companions is staggering .
She is a 22 year attention seeker who has never done a days work in her life .
While she is enjoying her free Mediterranean cruise young Israeli soldiers ,younger than her are dying for their country .
While she spreads lies and hate . 

Scrumpy

#5
No words fullydescribes this stupid time waster.. attention seeker..
Delivering aid to Gazza... Ham sandwiches  !!

They should have left the boat afloat.. and allow it to drift wherever....
Stupid , ignorant, unintelligent interfering people..
Don't ask me.. I know nuffink..


JBR

She, and her adult accompaniers (who should know better than this infantile girl) have been sent back to Sweden by air, free of any charges of course.

I suppose that Israel are trying to make themselves look civilised which, of course, their surrounding neighbours are not.  It would have been better for everyone if they had left her (and her even more stupid friends) bobbing about off the Gazan coast.  She wanted to go to Gaza, presumably to show her support and alliance, and she should have been allowed to do so.
Numquam credere Gallicum

klondike

If part of the deal was she stays there then the airfare was a bargain.


Ruthio

On the other hand, this taken from The Spectator  ...

Yes, Thunberg's trip was performative. But if it raises awareness of this ongoing atrocity even a fraction, it was a performance worth giving

Raven

This popped up on my FB Feed earlier, made me chuckle.

muddy

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Quote from: Ruthio on June 10, 2025, 01:27:52 PMOn the other hand, this taken from The Spectator  ...

Yes, Thunberg's trip was performative. But if it raises awareness of this ongoing atrocity even a fraction, it was a performance worth giving
I must have missed that but I don't agree 
It made them look complete laughing stocks .

June 10, 2025, 04:51:01 PM
Brendan O Neills article from the Spectator

Did Greta Thunberg refuse to watch footage of Hamas's 7 October atrocities? 

That's the accusation being made by Israel's defence minister, Israel Katz. Greta and her crew, upon their arrival in Israellast night, were taken into a room to be shown the harrowing truth of what Hamas did 20 months ago, says Katz. But when the video started rolling, and 'they saw what it was about', they 'refused to continue watching', he alleges.
Israel just saved you from a bloody warzone and you accuse it of war crimes? How about showing some gratitude?
This is a serious charge. Thunberg and her fellow sailors should address it with haste. For if what Mr Katz is saying is true, if they really did look away upon being shown footage of the torture and slaughter of the Jews of Southern Israel, then we need to know why. To shut one's eyes to the grim reality of Hamas's anti-Semitic barbarism is to be wilfully blind to one of the great horrors of our age – did you do that, Greta?
Greta's boat, the Madleen, was intercepted by Israeli forces. She and 11 other keffiyeh-wearing agitators had been hoping to land in Gaza, to 'break the blockade'. It was a 'selfie yacht', in Israel's salty words, that was carrying a 'tiny amount of aid'. Israel towed the boat to its port city of Ashdod. The crew, these self-imagined saviours of Gaza, are being repatriated to their countries of origin this week.
Many shrill claims are being made about Israel's interception. We've been 'kidnapped', said Greta. They haven't. They're fine and they have sandwiches. 'If anything happens to us, this is a war crime', cried one of the boat folk as the IDF boarded. This is teenage petulance masquerading as activism. Israel just saved you from a bloody warzone and you accuse it of war crimes? How about showing some gratitude?

If these people want to see real war crimes, they could do worse than watch Hamas's own footage of the racist terror it inflicted on the innocents of Israel. And yet, according to Katz, they turned a 'blind eye' to those war crimes. They looked away from the screen. His allegations are being widely reported in Israel and beyond.
Self-styled warriors for human rights refusing to watch one of the bloodiest assaults on human rights of the 21st century so far? Implacable anti-racists turning away from the worst act of anti-Jewish racism since the Nazis? If this is true, then it surely speaks to a profound moral blindness among the activist class, where they will sympathise with suffering humans everywhere except in Israel.
We await comment from Greta and the rest about whether they 'refused' to watch – and if so, why. To my mind, if this shunning of truth did occur, then it is of a piece with the left's agonised and sometimes outright shameful attitude towards 7 October. 
Greta and Co would only have been doing physically what the 'pro-Palestine' set has been doing morally for nearly two years: refusing to grapple with the enormity of what Hamas did to the Jews on that darkest day.
The activist set has a truly tortured relationship with 7 October. Some deny it, in a gross rehash of Holocaust denialism. It's exaggerated, they cry. Women weren't raped, they claim. Others say it was 'resistance'. 'This didn't start on 7 October', they snivellingly say, as if Hamas's fascistic actions, its slaughter of Jewish women and burning alive of Jewish families, were an 'understandable' response to Israeli policy. The last people who thought a pogrom was a legitimate response to political grievance were the Nazis.
The anti-Israeli mob can't make their minds up. They can't decide if 7 October didn't really happen, or it did and it was justified. Their swirling post-truth disorientation, their sick refusal to speak honestly about what an army of anti-Semites did to Jews in this very decade, is born of a depthless moral cowardice. For they know that the truth of 7 October threatens to utterly shatter that precarious moral high ground they teeter on.
To admit that Hamas visited Nazi-style violence on innocent Jews would be to admit that leftists took the wrong side in the aftermath of that grimmest crime against humanity. For self-styled anti-fascists to acknowledge that they made excuses for the worst act of fascist violence of our times is unthinkable. So they bury, or at least downplay, the truth of Hamas's atrocities, all to the low end of preserving their own phoney moralism. Nothing as trifling as the suffering of Jews can be allowed to meddle with the self-aggrandising narratives of the new left.
We cannot know for sure if Greta and her friends really 'refused' to watch the 7 October footage. If they did, might this be why – because they could not bear to glimpse the barbarism committed by the Palestinian side in this war? By the side whose flag they wave and whose keffiyehs they wear? They must tell us what happened. This is important.

JBR

Quote from: Ruthio on June 10, 2025, 01:27:52 PMOn the other hand, this taken from The Spectator  ...

Yes, Thunberg's trip was performative. But if it raises awareness of this ongoing atrocity even a fraction, it was a performance worth giving
What ongoing atrocity?

Perhaps they Spectator (who are they?) feel that Israel should hand over their country to the muslims?
Numquam credere Gallicum

muddy

The Spectator is not like that.
One the contrary it has a lot of journalists who put a balanced view on the ongoing war .
These include

Douglas Murray
Jake Wallis Simons
Brendan O Neill
Jonathan Sacerdoti
Julie Birchall
Rod Liddele
And many others

At times has some not so good articles too of course but it always allows comments and I suspect that the line  re "atrocity " comes from a comment . I may of course be wrong .

Alex

She is worth 2 million $ according to Forbes.  Her earnings come from independent engagements and projects including media appearances and her books.  She's no longer a girl, but a 22 year old woman who knows exactly what she's doing.