Big Plane Crash

[Mups]

Good grief.   I didn't know anything about this until just now,  did you?   
Really, really bad plane crash in South Korea. 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3we2p3l36jo

[klondike]

Yes I'd seen it reported. Nearly didn't read the story as I thought it was the one the Russians shot down at first then realised the location was wrong. The story I read was suggesting it might have been a bird strike and had a short piece of video showing flames coming out of an engine but it's possible that the story has moved on by now. I wouldn't have expected a bird strike to be enough to down a commercial jet.

[Mups]

Yes I'd seen it reported. Nearly didn't read the story as I thought it was the one the Russians shot down at first then realised the location was wrong. The story I read was suggesting it might have been a bird strike and had a short piece of video showing flames coming out of an engine but it's possible that the story has moved on by now. I wouldn't have expected a bird strike to be enough to down a commercial jet.

It seems you may be right.   They just said on the late news that normally a bird couldn't bring down a plane of that size.   
They also said it could take a long time to establish the cause because of the amount damage to look through.

[klondike]

All the bird could have done if there was one is knock out an engine and all commercial jets are expected to be capable of flying with a failed engine. Obviously if there was a big explosion or fire if could have caused a fuel fire in the wing but the short clip I saw was just showing a brief burst of flame out of the engine. If it had set the wing on fire the video would not have been clipped. No point second guessing with zero evidence though and crash investigators are seriously professional.

[muddy]

It hit a wall on landing after overshooting the runway .
Would have been better to have put a fence there surely rather than a brick wall ? 

[klondike]

I saw another suggestion that the bird strike could have damaged the landing gear. Considering the landing gear can support a 60 odd ton plane coming in at over 100mph unless there are some monster frozen geese flying in that area I think that is unlikely too.

[JBR]

It hit a wall on landing after overshooting the runway .
Would have been better to have put a fence there surely rather than a brick wall ?

Many (perhaps most) RAF airfields have an erectable arrestor net at each end of the runway for that very reason, which could be raised quickly if a landing aircraft was going to overshoot the runway.
Why are such things not provided at all airfields?

[Scrumpy]

Incredibly sad... So many lost their lives...

[dextrous63]

Agreed.  The wall was there presumably to protect the stuff between the end of the runway and the sea, which is a few hundred metres away.

[ansu]

In our papers they write that the crew made an emergency call, but probably they were too overloaded (überlastet) to notice that there were problems with the chassis. Moreover, it seems as if it is not the first time that the chassis is not extended on a plane of this type. 

[klondike]

There are supposed to be lights showing when the undercarriage is locked down.