Useless UN

[JBR]

Just borrowed an excellent post on a certain other discussion site, by a certain person from here:

The useless and corrupt  UN has just passed a resolution approving the future Palestinian membership .

A great addition not .

Still we must give the  United Nations some leeway

Sure, they're anti-semitic.
Sure, they're anti-American.
Sure, they're anti-Western.
Sure, they let murderous tyrannical regimes onto their human rights councils.
Sure, they perpetuate wars by calling for a ceasefire immediately so that more fighting can just take place later.
Sure, their organizations fund terror and teach hate.
Sure, they practice in moral relativism.
Sure, there's massive corruption and bribery.
Sure, they refuse to condemn terrorism.
Sure, they won't let democratic Taiwan join.

But their flag 🇺🇳 is quite nice .

[klondike]

Having dictatorships as permanent Security Council members immediately poses questions.

Look out for the upcoming sovereignty grab coming from the WHO treaty too. Our dipshit politicians will likely sign up for that. Bet Russia and China don't.

[muddy]

Shame on Australia among others including ourselves 

Meanwhile former Liberal prime minister Tony Abbott also took to social media to decry our government's support.
"Dismayed that Australia has broken eight decades of bi-partisanship," he wrote. "Shame the government has forgotten [former Labor PM] Bob Hawke's declaration that 'if the bell tolls for Israel...it tolls for all mankind'."

[muddy]

Having dictatorships as permanent Security Council members immediately poses questions.

Look out for the upcoming sovereignty grab coming from the WHO treaty too. Our dipshit politicians will likely sign up for that. Bet Russia and China don't.

Murder people and abduct their citizens and get UN approval .

Keep clam and hug a Hamas 

[JBR]

Murder people and abduct their citizens and get UN approval .

Keep clam and hug a Hamas

Exactly.  We should leave membership of the UN.  It does nothing but work against us.

[Alex]

"if the bell tolls for Israel...it tolls for all mankind'."  How true is this 

[JBR]

"if the bell tolls for Israel...it tolls for all mankind'."  How true is this 

Remembering what happened in Nazi Germany 80 years ago, I feel that's true.

The way things are going, especially in Londonistan, recalls in a very similar way the rise of Nazi anti-Jewish activities.

I wonder who, today, is the actual equivalent of Hitler: the one who is really stirring this up.
I can guess.

[Diasi]

Remembering what happened in Nazi Germany 80 years ago, I feel that's true.

The way things are going, especially in Londonistan, recalls in a very similar way the rise of Nazi anti-Jewish activities.

I wonder who, today, is the actual equivalent of Hitler: the one who is really stirring this up.
I can guess.

We should have kept our noses out & let Germany get on with it's plan to repossess the land that was stolen from it after WW1 war & told the Poles to go screw themselves.

Germany had not the slightest intention of involving the UK.

If we hadn't kicked off WW2 there wouldn't be an Israel & there wouldn't be Hamas or many of the other Middle East problems.

[JBR]

We should have kept our noses out & let Germany get on with it's plan to repossess the land that was stolen from it after WW1 war & told the Poles to go screw themselves.

Germany had not the slightest intention of involving the UK.

If we hadn't kicked off WW2 there wouldn't be an Israel & there wouldn't be Hamas or many of the other Middle East problems.

Lots of ifs and buts there.  One thing you are missing: Hitler.
Even if Germany had reclaimed its lost land after WW1, who's to say that Hitler (or another person like him) wouldn't have arisen, taken control, and persuaded the German people to expand their country further.

Of course, this new leader may not have hated Jews and many not have had any designs on the UK.

True, there may not have been an Israel, but the area referred to as Palestine (though not a unified country) would still have housed a large number of Jews.  

What I think we can be sure of is the ultimate aim of all muslims, as is written in their holy book: to expand and, bit by bit, take over the entire world.

They would have taken the area called Palestine and, for all we know, may have driven out (or perhaps killed) all the Jews living there.  They don't need a Hitler to help them!

In conclusion, I am sure that they would have done exactly what they are doing right now: expanding further from the middle-eastern countries into other neighbouring countries, either 'peacefully' inviting themselves into those countries (as they now do) or perhaps fighting for land.

We overcame the threat of Nazi Germany.  We are now facing our complete control by a quite different organisation!  😨

[Scrumpy]

FEAR is spreading.. 

[Diasi]

We overcame the threat of Nazi Germany.  We are now facing our complete control by a quite different organisation!  😨

This is my whole point because the UK wasn't facing any threat from Germany.

Edward the V111 was on very good terms with Hitler who was an admirer of the UK's German Royal Family.

Hitler's sole aim was to regain some areas that were stolen from Germany after WW1, in which also the UK should not have got involved, led to the creation of the Soviet Union which is causing us so much trouble today.

[JBR]

This is my whole point because the UK wasn't facing any threat from Germany.

Edward the V111 was on very good terms with Hitler who was an admirer of the UK's German Royal Family.

Hitler's sole aim was to regain some areas that were stolen from Germany after WW1, in which also the UK should not have got involved, led to the creation of the Soviet Union which is causing us so much trouble today.

But having regained that lost land, he pushed further into Russia.
He also took France.
As far as I'm concerned, he'd have been welcome to France but our leaders at the time must have become worried that the UK would be next.

[ansu]

A very interesting discussion and very interesting points of view. However, what you forget is that Hitler was megalomaniac. He should have been stopped much earlier and much suffering would have been avoided and less people would have had to die. 
As to my family, maybe you can't imagine what it means that you have to leave the place/house where you have lived for 200 years with only the things you have on your body. You are German and you speak German, but Germany is a foreign country for you at that moment.

[Alex]

Good job not everyone thought like Diasi or you'd all have been speaking German !

[muddy]

My very thoughts !