Will you be answering Brandon's call ?

Started by Alex, July 11, 2023, 02:39:10 PM

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Cassandra

The 'Courts' can't overturn it, the legislation is enshrined within 'The Civil Contingencies Act 2004'. I'm sure I've explained this before? Anyway this Blair Bill replaced previous legislation from the last century and advised (we were told) would only to be used in times of National Emergencies, such as Warfare etc? However this lot mis-used it in the 'Covid Lockdowns' profusely.

Briefly it means that legal opposition mounted against a Parliamentary decision, such as The use of Scampton etc, cannot be questioned or delayed by Injunctive issue. It's the nuclear Gov't bomb to ensure local reaction or what used to be called Democracy can't intercede in the provision of physical action by HMG and it's thugs as seen today in Wales.

As you know Sunak is a fair minded hardworking little Scarab and the trouble his bill is in to Stop the Boats, Rwanda etc, with those beastly bishops, lords etc, I'm sure really concerns him? All this upset - just for us, we should be so lucky to have him up there at this time?

So why didn't he utilise this draconian principle to ensure his 'Nationality and Borders Bill' was given similar robust and indisputable carriage? Seems our favourite man, dropped one here?

Everyone knows the Lords will delay it until after Parliament shuts down in a weeks time or so until September. Then we have the season of lies also known as the Political Parties Conference season. So it won't fail properly until mid Octoberish, which is just what they all want! Also it might get forgotten with a bit of luck and some more BBC scandals in the pipeline?  Meanwhile in another 70 odd days of hopefully good sailing weather, a further 20,000 happy chappy's can enter the UK 'unvetted'. With no more 'money printing' allowed, where will the burden of a further £4,000,000 a night to keep them all in servitude to the left wing nutters come from?

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Alex

It's worrying. 
The somewhat 'posh' city of Chester seems to be awash with black and arab young men, it's a while since I went and I was shocked. 

dextrous63

Maybe we should write to the Sun and tell them that we feel violated!

JBR

Yes.  It's certainly very worrying.
If I'm still here in ten years, I don't know what I'll do.
If Marge is still here in twenty years, I dread to think what she'll be facing.

And to think, that if enough people vote for Reform, serious changes could be made to prevent the forthcoming disaster.
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Raven

Quote from: JBR on July 13, 2023, 11:07:00 PMAnd to think, that if enough people vote for Reform, serious changes could be made to prevent the forthcoming disaster.

Not trying to be awkward or anything, BUT, if Reform by some miracle became the next Government wouldn't they still have the problem the present one is. I mean The Lords, they seem to enjoy saying NO to almost everything. So what plans Reform had/has would come to a screeching halt.

JBR

Quote from: Raven on July 14, 2023, 06:19:35 AMNot trying to be awkward or anything, BUT, if Reform by some miracle became the next Government wouldn't they still have the problem the present one is. I mean The Lords, they seem to enjoy saying NO to almost everything. So what plans Reform had/has would come to a screeching halt.
You are perfectly correct.  Our next government is quite likely to be Labour.  I think we all know what they will do to further ruin this country.
After a couple of years, people will be complaining about what is happening to the country and what a mess it is in.  But whose fault do they think that will be?
Let's be honest, the majority of British people are fools.

Yes, of course the Lords repeatedly oppose anything that the Commons try to do.
However, what some silly people don't realise is that a strong government can then ignore what the Lords ADVISE, and drive through what has been agreed in their own chamber.
A strong government can override what the Lords try to dictate, and the same for the Civil Serpents.

As I've said before, in a democracy, the voters decide and then must take responsibility if another hopelessly inept party takes control.  It will be nobody's fault but the voters.

Incidentally, I fully expect the Scots to vote for the SNP yet again!  🙄
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klondike

Quote from: Raven on July 14, 2023, 06:19:35 AMNot trying to be awkward or anything, BUT, if Reform by some miracle became the next Government wouldn't they still have the problem the present one is. I mean The Lords, they seem to enjoy saying NO to almost everything. So what plans Reform had/has would come to a screeching halt.
The House of Lords can be reformed if there is a political will to do so. It certainly needs it.

Diasi

Quote from: klondike on July 14, 2023, 08:18:25 AMThe House of Lords can be reformed if there is a political will to do so. It certainly needs it.
Well any Party that implemented the scrapping of the HoL would have the backing of the vast silent majority of the country.

And the muzzling of the Supreme Court by making it a criminal offence for any public officials to interfere in Government policy making.
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dextrous63

Having just had a quick read of the HoL's latest meddling in the immigration act, with Welby (who was never elected by the public for anything) bleating on, and some provision or other specifically aimed at helping LBGT immigrants, it seems totally clear that the place needs a proper clear out.

Raven

You know what/who annoys me even more than the HOL, it's that high Bishop, can't remember his name. But he can't keep his beak out of politics, he is always going on about the illegals being helped in and given every comfort. Makes me savage, If the now King Charles was told to butt out of politics then so should this man be, he should stick to religion, and mind his own damn business. :angry:

dextrous63

Quote from: Raven on July 14, 2023, 10:11:23 AMYou know what/who annoys me even more than the HOL, it's that high Bishop, can't remember his name. But he can't keep his beak out of politics, he is always going on about the illegals being helped in and given every comfort. Makes me savage, If the now King Charles was told to butt out of politics then so should this man be, he should stick to religion, and mind his own damn business. :angry:
Welby, which is why I mentioned him😉

Raven

Quote from: dextrous63 on July 14, 2023, 10:20:32 AMWelby, which is why I mentioned him😉

That's him. Sorry I didn't read all the posts, had Dunc talking to me at the same time, kind of puts one off. :shh:

Michael Rolls

As fare as I'm concerned, the good Archbishop is a blithering  idiot who should stick to his parish!
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Alex

How do they get in ? Who appoints them ?  There are 26 of them for goodness sake.  :yell:

klondike

I assume they get appointed by the Church Commisioners to be bishops. Some of them get seats in the Lords. Presumably 26 if you looked it up. I expect if there is reform we'll also be getting 26 immams 26 cardinals 26 rabbis etc. etc.