Cutting off the Gas.

Started by Raven, June 22, 2022, 09:21:36 PM

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Raven

Just in time for next Winter. Putin's next nasty move.  :angry: Technical Problems he says. Bullshit I say.  :nooo:

BBC News - Europe told to prepare for Russia turning off gas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-61899509

klondike

The biggest loser there will be Germany. 

Will the west decide to dump Ukraine to Putin's tender mercies or provide enough weapons for them to inflict a severe enough defeat on the Russians to cause Putin to fall?

It's good to moan.

Raven


Alex

Germany has said coal-fired power plants could plug supply gaps.   I wonder if they now regret shutting down all their nuclear plants ?

 

Raven

And I bet the green Brigade will have hysterics over them going back to coal.

klondike

To think we used to worry over the Red Brigade some decades ago.

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hugh

Cutting off gas very unlikely while he his collecting loads of money off Germany.
Happy Golfer

klondike

He wants to stop the sanctions and weapons shipments to Ukraine. It that doesn't happen then he'll be looking at being  a customer here...



He figures without his gas most of Europe will be there before him. European politicians need to to be more concerned about their citizens welfare than he does. No gas to Germany means those nice Euro generating car factories and plenty more will simply stop.

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Jacqueline

Could we possibly open up our coal mines again for electricity generating, I suppose the cost would be prohibitive?

With all this green business we will all be turning blue with cold this winter.

klondike

I recall being told by my brother in law (not a miner) that when the pits were closed they would have flooded pretty much immediately. I imagine getting them going again would take an age and cost a fortune. Doubtless we could import miners from overseas to operate them though.......

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Diasi

Quote from: klondike on June 23, 2022, 11:25:27 PMI recall being told by my brother in law (not a miner) that when the pits were closed they would have flooded pretty much immediately. I imagine getting them going again would take an age and cost a fortune. Doubtless we could import miners from overseas to operate them though.......


Indeed, it isn't just the mines that we've lost, it's the skilled workforce to run them.
Make every day count, each day is precious.
"Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal".  (Cassandra)

hugh

With open cast mines if they had any, will not need skilled workers.
Happy Golfer

klondike

We don't. Or at least not enough to serve more that the fuel requirement for barbecues according to stuff I found via google.

Green lobbly project fear damaged fracking almost to the point of making it impossible in the face of those believing all the scare stories but I see it as being far more viable (and greener) than looking at restarting coal mining. No underground personel needed at all with that.

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-Oy-

Quote from: hugh on June 24, 2022, 11:56:05 AMWith open cast mines if they had any, will not need skilled workers.

Having worked in Opencast mines back in the 80s I can tell you that a lot of skilled work is required.

Lots of excavation, explosives, materials testing, earthworks, pumping, reclamation - etc.

I was a Land Surveyor for before, during and after.
"If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer."

klondike

I think there is a chance that some of those skills remain in the UK as opencast seems to have continued on a small scale but I suspect there is always a battle getting the planning permission for new ones. I doubt there would be enough of the skills left for deep coal mining to start without bringing them in from abroad.

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