Useless UN

[Diasi]

Good job not everyone thought like Diasi or you'd all have been speaking German !

Well far better than getting ready to speak some Muslim language.

However, your post displays an embarrassing lack of knowledge of 1930s Germany's view of the UK & it's desired relationship with the UK.

[Michael Rolls]

Germany signed a non-aggression pact with the USSR. That went well. Had Hitler succeeded against the USSR there would have been nothing to stop him coming for the UK as well - don't be deceived by the rhetoric of 'natural allies' - this it the true face of Hitler's ambition

This is the text of a speech given in 1941 by Reichminister R.W. Darre:-

As soon as we beat England we shall make an end of you Englishmen once and for all. Able-bodied men and women will be exported as slaves to the Continent. The old and the weak will be exterminated. All men remaining in Britain as slaves will be sterilised; a million or two of the young women of the Nordic type will be segregated in a number of stud farms where, with the assistance of picked German sires, during a period of 10 or 12 years, they will produce annually a series of Nordic infants to be brought up in every way as Germans. These infants will form the future population of Britain. They will be partially educated in Germany and only those who fully satisfy the Nazis' requirements will be allowed to return to Britain and take up permanent residence. The rest will be sterilised and sent to join slave gangs in Germany. Thus, in a generation or two, the British will disappear.

This wasn't some secret policy; it was a speech given in public and presumably intended to strike terror into British hearts. Fortunately it failed.

historum.com/war-military-history/100659-war-civilians-4.html
www.holocaustresearchproject.org/economics/darre.html

[Cassandra]

I'd never heard of him Mike, well researched! He must be a source of influence for Ursula von der Leyen that wonder woman of restriction and control. Germans make such nice people when you rally think about it?

[JBR]

Marge and I have been on holiday in Germany a number of times and have found the German people very amenable.  I have stumbled in trying to speak in German to them, and they do appreciate it (then help me out!).

I'd like to think that Hitler was a peculiarly nasty piece of work and, although he managed to persuade many people to support him, I'm sure that not every German was a Nazi.  The impression I get is that since we won the war, the German people are quite different to those who fell for the persuasive Hitler possibly through fear rather than admiration.

[Alex]

Marge and I have been on holiday in Germany a number of times and have found the German people very amenable.  I have stumbled in trying to speak in German to them, and they do appreciate it (then help me out!).

I'd like to think that Hitler was a peculiarly nasty piece of work and, although he managed to persuade many people to support him, I'm sure that not every German was a Nazi.  The impression I get is that since we won the war, the German people are quite different to those who fell for the persuasive Hitler possibly through fear rather than admiration.

I deleted my post JBR, deciding I didn't want to be rude.  

[JBR]

I deleted my post JBR, deciding I didn't want to be rude.  

You are never rude, Alex, and I certainly didn't regard your post as rude.
Go on.  Put it back on!

[Alex]

You are never rude, Alex, and I certainly didn't regard your post as rude.
Go on.  Put it back on!

Diasi was rude though, I'll rise above it !!!!🤭

[Cassandra]

The present 'Conservative Party' is not representative any longer of 'Conservative' values. It's ruled by dictat from a grouping calling themselves 'One Nation Tories'. Margaret Thatcher called them 'Wets' . Limpid, Liberal, left wing centrists who suckled such as Dominic Grieve, Anna Soubry, Zac Goldsmith, Damien Greene, Phillip Hammond, David Gauke and Theresa May etc. By stealth they now control the 'Parliamentary Party' by an MP majority of 3 to 1 v's the typical traditional right thinking MP's. The membership of the Party, the fee paying loyalists however are formed in exactly the opposite direction. By manipulation of local party committees etc at grass roots level they have seen the likes of the present useless PM, and other odious individuals such as Schapps, Nokes, Mordaunt, Hunt - the list is endlessly depressive get elected to power.

The present Conservative set-up needs to be viscerally reduced as a Party in the coming General Election. Only by such expurgation can a new structure be allowed to develop. I believe many of the Wets will lose their seats and with them in the wake of the catharsis, their branch influence & control. The Right could regain the direction of thinking and in parallel a new approach to the selection  of parliamentary candidates who will be desperately needed to resurrect the country following a five year Labour/ Lib Dem , Green terminal spiral into financial ruin.

The Wets can either join their real vehicle of socio thinking the Lib-Dems, or perhaps remain as a lesser forced Conservative organisation. I'd love to see  a group of  newly elected Right wing MP's, say 50 out of 100 Tories post '24, cross the floor day one as 'Reformists'. Perhaps only by this radical re-shuffle and exposure could the 'Reform' Party gain a foot hold. It would surely ensure the Liberal Greens who have destroyed the Party with their Nett-Zeroed, blinkered denial of reality be reduced to a truer representation of their ideals.

Wets need the right wing to get elected they cannot survive alone, so now is the time to divide and let them realise their true place without their irksome 'leaver colleagues' from the right. 

If not, by 2029 the UK will be a broken, bankrupt polarised hump of no-hope, EV leasing, nett zeroed zombies. Heading towards Shariah law and influenced by Smart phoned social media driven Asian student globalists.

[klondike]

Not optimistic for the future then Cass 

[ansu]

At school the topic "3rd Reich - Hitler" was not really dealt with. However, Hitler wasn't born in Germany, but in Austria and we were told that the reason why he was so successful was that after having lost WW I the Germans were poor like church mice and the reparation payments to the winners were very very high. Many people were unemployed and Hitler promised them the blue from the sky as we say. I don't know whether this is true or not, because in our family - due to our experience - this topic was a taboo topic. In the town where I live now many Jews lived before WW II and on a sighseeing tour around our town the guide told us that the Jews were treated like cattle by the Nazis. 

[JBR]

The present Conservative set-up needs to be viscerally reduced as a Party in the coming General Election.

It will!  🤣

May 18, 2024, 06:07:40 PM

At school the topic "3rd Reich - Hitler" was not really dealt with. However, Hitler wasn't born in Germany, but in Austria and we were told that the reason why he was so successful was that after having lost WW I the Germans were poor like church mice and the reparation payments to the winners were very very high. Many people were unemployed and Hitler promised them the blue from the sky as we say. I don't know whether this is true or not, because in our family - due to our experience - this topic was a taboo topic. In the town where I live now many Jews lived before WW II and on a sightseeing tour around our town the guide told us that the Jews were treated like cattle by the Nazis.

Yes, I'm sure that all of that is understandable.  According to everything I have heard, the Jews were not only treated like cattle, but very efficiently exterminated, not that I agree with it of course.

I assume that Hitler's hatred of the Jews was at least partly due to their control of much of the money in the country.  I cannot understand any other possible alternative reason as, unlike our muslim invaders, I'm sure they weren't expanding in numbers exponentially.  Neither were they interesting themselves in politics with the intention of eventually taking control of the country.

Of course, I could be talking out of my backside!

[klondike]

The WW1 settlement gave the Germans a justifiable complaint and directly lead to WW2 because Hitler was able to use the resentment of the German people. Quite why or how that resentment was turned against the Jews is something of a mystery to me. 

I think later generations of Germans were ashamed of what had gone before but blaming children for the sins of their fathers is never right. For instance I accept no responsibility for anything that this country may have done before I was old enough to vote. I'm not even keen on taking any blame personally for anything the country has done as my ability to guide events is close to zero.