The tory hierarchy is so wet you need a boat to visit CCHQ. 

Thank you Raven..

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Unfortunaterly Reform is unelectable too. They don't have the active membership machinery, donors etc. that can put them into a winning position in elections. Tory MPs may as well stay where they are if they want to keep their jobs because they stand more chance standing as Conservatives than they do defecting to Reform.

What Rees-Mogg wants is reform of the Tory party. The grass roots are doubtless behind him but the Parliamentary party is now beyond redemption. My hope is for a total wipeout. Let the grass roots see that the brand has sunk lower than Ratners. That way there is an outside chance of either a reformed Tory party or maybe just Reform, Either way expect Socialism for the rest of your days now I fear.

Change doesn't come easy to most people though. 

Time to go Backwards I think, Shake the Do Gooders up and teach the trouble makers a well needed lesson. Just need the police to man up.

No more free passage from Eire.

There is a problem with that. An open border was part of the Good Friday agreement. It is why the Brexit agreement lead to a border in the Irish sea for goods. We can hardly have one for people as NI is part of the UK.

The solution to the Pikey problem is the same as it is for so many issues - the police need to uphold existing laws and not bugger around policing Twitter etc. when somebody complains that they are offended. A smack in the mouth gives real offence. If somebody doesn't like stuff they read online then the best solution for them is to stop reading it.

I have always respected Mogg, but I cannot agree with his opinion here.

The Conservatives are sinking, deservedly, and I am sure are still infested by undercover Liberals.
If anything, Reform should invite any present Conservative MPs, who they can be assured are truly Conservative, to leave that party and join Reform, hopefully bringing with them their honest voters.

The Conservative party has made itself now unelectable in my view.  Reform is the natural centre-right wing replacement, if only more people could recognise that before it is too late.

Quote from: muddy on Today at 06:57:56 AMThey are scared of them and are reluctant to act .
Pikeys are vindictive and will wreak revenge on the families of police .
There is a big camp near Reading where the police only go in in riot gear .

Yes, I'm afraid that is so.
The only way to restore Britain to what it once was wen ah wer a lad is to restore our borders.
No more free passage from Eire.
No more free passage across the Channel.

The world clearly sees Britain as weak, undefended and available for taking whatever they see.
How many years before we see a strong, pro-British government?
Perhaps never.

Rees-Mogg Calls on Sunak to Offer Jobs to Farage, Reform UK Leaders to Save Conservative Party

In a hail mary attempt to save the Conservative Party from electoral devastation, Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg has called on Rishi Sunak to offer Nigel Farage and top Reform UK figures the chance to become Tory MPs and potentially members of the government in an election pact.

Rees-Mogg, the former Business Secretary and Brexit campaigner pitched a rerun of 2019, in which Nigel Farage's Brexit Party (now Reform UK) partnered with Boris Johnson's Conservatives to "Get Brexit Done" by stepping aside in key constituencies to ensure a large majority against the Labour Party.

Yet to sweeten the pot this time around, Sir Jacob has argued that Reform UK leader Richard Tice, his deputy Ben Habib, and honorary president Nigel Farage should be allowed to stand for the Conservatives and for Farage to be given assurances of a cabinet post.

"With the help of Nigel Farage in a Conservative government, as a Conservative minister, with Boris Johnson probably returning as foreign secretary and welcoming the likes of Ben Habib and Richard Tice into our party, as well as pursuing genuinely conservative policies, winning the next election suddenly becomes within reach," Rees-Mogg said on Tuesday.

In a mock negotiation held on GB News, Mr Farage and Sir Jacob largely agreed on the changes needed within the Tory party, namely getting control of mass migration. The two agreed to such an extent that Farage said that they should be in the same party.

However, the Brexit boss told the former Business Minister that he underestimates "the level of contempt that is felt for the Conservative Party" in the country, with many people who previously voted Tory feeling betrayed by the record waves of immigration allowed into the country following the UK's withdrawal from the European Union.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/05/16/rees-mogg-calls-on-sunak-to-offer-jobs-to-farage-reform-uk-leaders-to-save-conservative-party/

It's good to see that at least one Tory MP can see the catastrophe coming and understands that a move to the right completely trumps a move to the left and is essential to satisfy the Tory faithful and most past Tory voters.

Of course this idea is never going to happen. Most of the Tories despise Farage. Farage would never be persuaded to join anyway as he recognises that the Tories are not just poorly but terminal.

Does poor Nigel have an unfortunate gurning habit or do the press only release unflattering pictures of him the way police mugshots would make Mother Theresa appear to be a homicidal maniac?