Andy Burnham’s manifesto

[muddy]

What has Labour done for the north to date exactly ?
Grooming gang inquiry ring a bell for a start ?

This was also the result of tactical voting .

Both the Lib Dem's and the greens has very low percentages of people voting .
The Lib Dem's only got 163 votes

So what happened ?

They voted Labour I order to keep out reform .

[muddy]

And now that Burnham is all set for the top job pensioners are even more in their sights for taxation .They only to do is to spend it before Labour does it for you .

[Raven]

I may be wrong, but I think we're in for a rough ride with this man in the driving seat.

[klondike]

Has he actually said anything about his tax plans? Last I heard he was sticking tho the original manifesto on taxes (which of course team Starmer ignored). Trouble is he has also promised a big increase in both social housing and welfare with nothing said about where the money is coming from. I think he bought a special seed. From a bloke in a pub which he plans to grow into a magic money tree.

[Mups]

And now that Burnham is all set for the top job pensioners are even more in their sights for taxation .They only to do is to spend it before Labour does it for you .

I think they said on the news a couple of days ago,  that Burnham is taking over on 17th July.

[Michael Rolls]

Where the money is coming from? Us of course

[muddy]

Yup we pensioners are right in the firing range .
As sure as eggs he will tax isas 

[klondike]

The upcoming isa changes don't impact pensioners. They'd probably like to introduce involuntary euthanasia at 60. That would remove the pensions bill. Only for the plebs naturally.

I read an Asimov SF novel that included that. Pebble in the Sky. If any of that lot did it'll be in for sure. Their first try with cancelling winter fuel allowance so they need something new.

[ansu]

Same problem in Germany - money is missing everywhere.
However, we have to leave the church in the village as we say - I can't remember that we had such problematic times before - Covid - war in Ukrainia, war in Israel, Palestine and Iran, an American president who is changing his mind from one day to the other.

[Vlad]

And in a nutshell...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRwyXyU2/

[klondike]

Looks about right

Today at 09:45:36 AM

an American president who is changing his mind from one day to the other.

Having his mind changed for him. He seems to echo the views of the last person he spoke to - in one ear one day and out of his mouth the next.

[muddy]

The upcoming isa changes don't impact pensioners. They'd probably like to introduce involuntary euthanasia at 60. That would remove the pensions bill. Only for the plebs naturally.

I read an Asimov SF novel that included that. Pebble in the Sky. If any of that lot did it'll be in for sure. Their first try with cancelling winter fuel allowance so they need something new.

The allowance won't but they are now thinking of putting a 22% tax on any money kept in a Stocks and shares ISA that earns interest .
There are many reasons why sometimes there is cash in a S and S isa at times .
Of course if you have no money it won't affect you .
And that is the aim make everyone ( except themselves ) poorer .
Why would anyone strive / work / save for their old age when it's all going to be taxed yet again ?

[klondike]

If a pensioner can afford to put more than £20,000 cash into an ISA annually then to be fair they can afford that tax. I suspect any that could will likely have an accountant who can probably sort out a way to avoid all their tax bills.

The measures that they keep introducing just make it more likely that active measures will be researched to avoid paying more tax than they already are and the take could end up lower.

[Michael Rolls]

And serve them bloody well right!

[muddy]

If a pensioner can afford to put more than £20,000 cash into an ISA annually then to be fair they can afford that tax. I suspect any that could will likely have an accountant who can probably sort out a way to avoid all their tax bills.

The measures that they keep introducing just make it more likely that active measures will be researched to avoid paying more tax than they already are and the take could end up lower.

But it's not necessarily every year that is just the allowance .
It's money that people have saved into  ISAs throughout their working life .