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Started by Scrumpy, April 28, 2026, 09:24:07 AM

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JBR

Quote from: muddy on April 29, 2026, 08:13:58 AMThey want some big tough security guys that aren't afraid to be intimidating .
In rough places they should wear stab vests
Although that would be an effective means of deterring shoplifters, that would result in them being sacked just like the one in the news recently.  The root problem appears to be the owners of the outlets.  In my opinion, they deserve to lose stock by shoplifting.
I wonder whether they are afraid to physically prevent shoplifting due to the recent hit-and-miss consequences in the courts, when some minor infractions are punished, yet some more important illegalities are quitely ignored.  Something is happening to our judges.
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muddy

There should be zero tolerance .
Once you  start excusing  crime it's a slippery slope .

CHF

Quote from: muddy on April 29, 2026, 03:49:19 PMThere should be zero tolerance .
Once you  start excusing  crime it's a slippery slope .
Precisely!

muddy

But what to do?

Shop lifting is no longer considered a crime .

Barging through ticket gates at railway stations  is no longer a crime .

( yet my friend with a legitimate ticket that cost her over a £100 was harassed by inspectors at Paddington . She is 75 and 5 ft 2 " so was fair game ) eventually a supervisor was called who confirmed that her ticket was valid .

Noisy phone calls in the quiet carriage on these trains is ok too  there are no inspectors so anything goes .

( why because it costs more to take the wrongdoers to court that let them off - and the criminals  know it. .)

Fly tipping is rife and litter dropping is widespread

I was brought up to believe dropping litter was wrong  aren't children taught  this any more ?

 ( God forbid if you complain you are a Karen ! )

JBR

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Quote from: muddy on Yesterday at 08:19:32 AMBut what to do?

Shop lifting is no longer considered a crime .

Barging through ticket gates at railway stations  is no longer a crime .

( yet my friend with a legitimate ticket that cost her over a £100 was harassed by inspectors at Paddington . She is 75 and 5 ft 2 " so was fair game ) eventually a supervisor was called who confirmed that her ticket was valid .

Noisy phone calls in the quiet carriage on these trains is ok too  there are no inspectors so anything goes .

( why because it costs more to take the wrongdoers to court that let them off - and the criminals  know it. .)

Fly tipping is rife and litter dropping is widespread

I was brought up to believe dropping litter was wrong  aren't children taught  this any more ?

 ( God forbid if you complain you are a Karen ! )

What to do?  Exactly!
There is little or nothing we can do when the authorities and the police choose the soft option of not doing their jobs.
A wholesale change needs to be made to how this country is run.  Imprisonment is avoided so often, no doubt because our prisons are full.  There are answers to this, though.  Prisons seem to be organised in the hope of persuading criminals to change by, for example, nice words, skills training and education.  What seems to be lacking is deterrence.  Punishments should be far more severe: living conditions, behaviour, and appropriate punishments inside.  We could build more prisons, but my preference is to cram them in and let them live in crowded cells... and forget the training courses, etc.
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