Travel.

[Scrumpy]

I have put this thread up because I was interested in what others were saying on Village News..

I have travelled to many countries...
As a child we were excited to go on a (yearly) coach trip to Littlehampton..
Mum would bake pies and make sandwiches .. We went with a group of friends.. Stopping off at a pub along the way.. We were all happy and sang as we travelled along..

My children/ grandchildren travel far today, thinking nothing of it..
They talk in thousands.. !!!  I don't remember having a thousand pounds when I was young..
I doubt I even said 'Thousand' when talking about money..

[klondike]

You need rather a lot of those to get a house these days. My first cost £2,500 but shortly after there was a huge boom in prices - I'm not sure quite why and when I moved about 18 month later it sold for £5,400 not that it helped me particularly as the one I bought cost more. I don't recall the exact price but know it was over £6,000. There were other houses I had that pretty much doubled in value but none in so short a timescale as that first one. It would be worth a bit over £200k now going by the prices others in that area sell for.

[Mups]

Yes Klondie, I remember those days too.
Our first brand new-build home at Irchester, was around  £2,400, too.   Hardly seems possible now, does it.
We had the option of having an attached garage built too,  for an extra £220.   
You could barely buy a decent tent for that now!

Mind you,   wages and cost of living  were also far less than they are now, too.

[Michael Rolls]

Susa n, my first wife, and I bought a three bed semi in 1958 for £5999. It. Was in Surbiton although not the most expensive area, a house we really liked was £10k.
A couple of years ago, perhaps a bit less, an identical house a couple of doors away was on the market 'offers over £750,000!'

[Mups]

I wonder how these unrealistic house prices can be justified?   
I mean,  what's changed?  A house is still the same bricks and mortar,  garden size,  driveway,  etc that it always was,   so why such ridiculous  price increases?
And even many posher areas that were,  are no longer as desirable as they were years ago, with many new-builds swamping every bit of greenery there was.

[klondike]

Anything is worth what it can be sold for. More people want houses than there are houses available so prices are high.

I hasten to add that this has absolutely nothing to do with unfettered mass immigration into our wonderful multicultural society.

[Mups]

Anything is worth what it can be sold for. More people want houses than there are houses available so prices are high.

I hasten to add that this has absolutely nothing to do with unfettered mass immigration into our wonderful multicultural society.

But why?   Who are all these people who suddenly need a house,  regardless of price? Where do they get the money from?   Where are they all coming from if its not from abroad?

They are building on every field they can get their hands on round this way,  they are all going to be houses or solar panels soon.    Does that mean all farm animals will have to spend their miserable lives shut in barns soon, and never see a blade of grass or feel sunshine?   The labour and food costs involved will rocket the prices of meat and dairy, and no more free range eggs ever again.

[klondike]

Why indeed. A total mystery. I know it can't be mass immigration because our leaders have told us it isn't.

[Michael Rolls]

And we believe every word from the lying scum

[GrannyMac]

As well as the extra bods who have moved here, (all professionals of course!) there has been a big increase over the years in single person and single parent homes.  Lots of families who at one time would all live in a house now have two, one for mum, one for dad. 

[Scrumpy]

I agree... 
Gone are the days when we stayed at home with mum and dad.. Many couples lived with their parents with children of their own.. Nanny played a large part in the growing up of her grandchildren..
These days children want to break free.. Buying /Renting single apartments and small flats..
More of these type of buildings are desperately needed.. At an affordable price..
Money grabbing landlords are the scourge of society.. Renting out property not fit for humans and making vast profits..
Our young need help... 

[klondike]

Those wanting to buy won't have a deposit for years. Apparently staying home with mummy and daddy til 30 odd isn't that unusual.

[Scrumpy]

Perhaps our young these days start around thirty.. 
Way back many had babies as young teenagers.. Married young and rented or (saved) for a deposit whilst living with mum and dad..

Women are having their babies at a later age.. Maybe because of this reason..
Gone are the days when the council handed out property to all.. 
Top of the list were those with children.. The more you had the more points you were given.. 
Even the single mother had babies just to get a council dwelling..
It is not as simple as that anymore.. 
They.. mostly... are wiser...

[Mups]

Those wanting to buy won't have a deposit for years. Apparently staying home with mummy and daddy til 30 odd isn't that unusual.

That is what I'd have thought too.

A huge  housing complex was built about 3 or 4 miles from me, I think it was 2,500 new homes.  
There is a dispute going on because when they built these they put in one small junior school,  nothing else.
Apparently the builders were supposed to have included a community centre, doctors, shops etc  but not until they had sold something like 2,000 homes first, then they would add these facilities.  
Now they want to extend the building to 3000 homes first,  but existing buyers are fuming because they still haven't got any facilities at all.  I read that some are even moving out again.   
Sounds to me like the builders are only after more dosh, without fullfilling their planning agreement first.
  Of course the buyers need facilities - I bet the builders have!

Now I have been told another 2,000 homes are going to be built on the edge of a village less than 2 miles from  me.
That will be 5,000 new homes around here alone.    I don't believe for a minute there are 5,000 homeless people in one small area,  and anyway,  most of the 'homeless'  people who beg outside shops round here,  don't look like they have enough for a bowl of soup, let alone buy a property.
So I would still like to know why this sudden surge of huge housing estates going up.

[GrannyMac]

Those wanting to buy won't have a deposit for years. Apparently staying home with mummy and daddy til 30 odd isn't that unusual.

Boomers own property. If we are lucky enough not to need care, our families will benefit.  Inheritance will provide deposits in many instances.