And so it goes on..

[Scrumpy]

... and on..

   Sydney Australia .. Bondi beach.. Terror attack... 12 killed.

  Rhode Island USA..  Shooting of two students at university.

  Germany.. 5 arrested for suspected Islamist plot .. Christmas Market..

... and on and on...

[JBR]

From what I can see in the news, the shootings were aimed at Jews.  Consequently, I have a pretty good idea who the shooters were.
My concern now is that the same will happen here before long, and unlike Australia (and most other places) our coppers on the ground are not routinely armed.

[muddy]

I have expressed my feelings on the mothership .
Amazing the silence .

I knew something terrible was in the offing .
I thought it might be here in the U.K.
it still might .
Something bad always happens at Christmas time .
I feel nothing but sorrow for those poor people .

I know Bondi Beach well my son used to live there .
It's a beautiful place  uses by all

At weekend it's full of families

This weekend there were some 2000 Jewish people there celebrating the first day of the Jewish holiday .

[Scrumpy]

It would seem that no country is a completely safe place from these killing terrorist..

We always think it is just happening to us.. But, no.. 

Because we are a small country it takes very little time to be overrun by these people..
Australia being a much larger country will take longer to be overrun by these killers..

Unfortunately BIG country or SMALL country  they have established a footing in BOTH..

Australia might have armed police but the ones doing the killing do not fear death so a policeman with a gun usually turns up after the crime .. and then shoots the culprit..
Meanwhile people lay injured or dying..

[Mups]

There have always been bad people in the world,  like those who created wars and atrocities in the past - and still do.
But wars are usually created by people in office,  our so-called 'leaders'  who are supposed to be doing what's best for their citizens.   

It's how quickly the number of private citizens who are becoming killers that is so disturbing now.
Are these killers perhaps  'simple'  people who are easily led,  and believe everything they are told?
It's like their brains have been rewired wrongly.   
What makes a person turn evil?
What makes a person hate so deeply, I wonder?

They have no fear of repercussions,  or death as they often kill themself in their massacre attempts.
I don't know the answers.

[JBR]

Reading through the sometimes worrying comments here, it occurs to me to ask one simple question:

Can you name one particularly safe country in any part of the world?

[Dextrous63]

Religions come and religions go.  Not sure why zealots still think that their's is the "one" when it's quite obvious that it isn't.

https://www.historysnob.com/eras/20-ancient-religions-that-no-longer-exist

[muddy]

There have always been bad people in the world,  like those who created wars and atrocities in the past - and still do.
But wars are usually created by people in office,  our so-called 'leaders'  who are supposed to be doing what's best for their citizens. 

It's how quickly the number of private citizens who are becoming killers that is so disturbing now.
Are these killers perhaps  'simple'  people who are easily led,  and believe everything they are told?
It's like their brains have been rewired wrongly. 
What makes a person turn evil?
What makes a person hate so deeply, I wonder?

They have no fear of repercussions,  or death as they often kill themself in their massacre attempts.
I don't know the answers.

Indoctrination by evil people with an agenda and support from stupid people who think they are being on the side of the underdog.
Entitlement resentment and appeasement from those who should be protecting the innocent notkow  towing to to violent hate groups .
Once boundaries have been breached it gets easier next time .
When you start to see people as sub human the next step is easy .
That why six million were murdered in the Holocaust .
That why these poor people have been murdered yesterday .
The killers don't think of them as innocent people , families , little children .
They think of them as something sub human to be exterminated .

[Dextrous63]

So, how does one stop this sort of mentality and indoctrination from taking place?

(PS- I've had the sidetrack comments removed from the thread on the Mothership.  You were right to pull me up on it)

[Scrumpy]

So, how does one stop this sort of mentality and indoctrination from taking place?

Too late.. It's already taken place.. 

[Dextrous63]

People can be unprogrammed, surely.  Either way, the cycle has to be broken.

[muddy]

Take the children away .

It would have been a good thing in the Gaza conflict to have removed all the girls and male children under 10 to the Sinai away from the corrupt influence of their male relatives .
( not that the women are all innocent but a child needs its mother )
By the time they are 12 it's too late .
Actually it's probably too late by 10 .

They must be put in schools that don't have text books teaching them to hate Jews , to kill Jews and that women are an inferior species .

That is the way .

[Alex]

I agree that it's too late.  They teach their kids not only to hate Jews, but to hate the West.
The mosques are also responsible for brainwashing kids, unfortunately there's no way to close down 2,000 (and counting) mosques.

The Labour Party will introduce a new law to address "Islamophobia" (allegedly) then the sh*t will hit the pfanne as nobody will be able to criticize them.  I've no idea who made up the word Islamophobia, but a phobia is an irrational fear isn't it like me and my spiders ? there's nothing irrational about fearing or being anxious about this dreadful ideology.

Isn't it strange that we need security barriers outside Christmas Markets and Synagogues, but not outside mosques ?  Islamophobia my arse as Jim Royle would say 

[JBR]

"I've no idea who made up the word Islamophobia, but a phobia is an irrational fear isn't it like me and my spiders ? there's nothing irrational about fearing or being anxious about this dreadful ideology."

No, it isn't a phobia.  It's a logical fear.
Over the past several decades, they have come here and established themselves, and become legal citizens.
I fear the damage has been done.
It will only take a message when the time is right and their armies of citizens will rise up.
Is it too late, even now?

[Dextrous63]

Words are introduced into the language, literally, by word of mouth.

With that in mind, perhaps if we started be referring to to our rational fear as Islamocynicism instead (unless anyone can thing of a better alternative) then that will spread to become the norm.