Shooting at Childrens Party

[Mups]

Another mass shooting in the USA by a gun waving nutter.   

It happened at a birthday  party for 8 - 14 yr olds in California.
Early news says 14 people were wounded,  and so far 4 have died. 

I expect there will be a lot more about this in the news tomorrow.

[Michael Rolls]

How can anyone do such a thing?

[Scrumpy]

Incredibly sad... They are talking of a  'Targeted' shooting..

If a country allows guns.. people will carry guns..

2023... A student shot his teacher .. He was SIX years old...
The teacher still has the bullet lodged in her chest.. 
She was awarded 10million dollars...

It is happening all the time in the USA... only a few make our press..

[JBR]

The right to bear arms has been there ever since the Wild West.  Because it has been a right for so very long, no-one seems to consider banning it now, and I have read articles which state that most Americans now possess firearms of some sort.
If the country is concerned about attacks by a foreign country, perhaps I could see some common sense in it, but the Yanks have large and efficient armed forces.  I believe that their police are all armed as well, and assuming that they are sufficient in number and readily available, I can see no real need for people to arm themselves.  The only possible exceptions might be some who live in the middle of nowhere and never see any police from day to day.
Come to think of it, that's rather like Britain today!

[klondike]

The reason the right to bear arms is written into their constitution is to enable them is, should it become necessary, to enable the  citizens to defend themselves against a corrupt government. Doesn't seem to work too well at that either though...

[muddy]

It seems that there  is always some tragedy near to Christmas .

[Alex]

It seems that there  is always some tragedy near to Christmas .

Often a plane crash

[Dextrous63]

The reason the right to bear arms is written into their constitution is to enable them is, should it become necessary, to enable the  citizens to defend themselves against a corrupt government. Doesn't seem to work too well at that either though...

A pre-emptive strike?  Those children may well have grown up to be the corrupted government of the future.  Boys from Brazil?

[klondike]

Don't go there.

I was just giving the reason I read for why the second amendment is there. One thing is certain it has been nibbled away over the years and every change has been fought tooth and nail. Truth is if it was removed no modern government would ever enact it again. Everything any government does these days is the restriction of citizens or in our case subjects rather than endowing them with more freedoms. Well apart from some portions of the population here obviously.

[Mups]

It seems that there  is always some tragedy near to Christmas .

Often a plane crash

Yes,  sadly it does often seem that way, I agree.

[Michael Rolls]

A popular saying over there 'If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns'
You can see the truth in it - after all, that's just about the situation here

[Scrumpy]

A popular saying over there 'If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns'
You can see the truth in it - after all, that's just about the situation here

That is so true.. 
Anything that is  'Not Allowed'... is tempting..
 
 Children are told 'No sweets'.. 
  Young teenagers 'No sex , drugs, alcohol, smoking'.

When we were kids my mum would say...
'Behave yourselves and don't go scrumping'...

[Dextrous63]

I've always thought that the right to bear arms has been misinterpreted.  Given that there are only so many bears in the world, it makes one wonder why the founding fathers of the USA wanted everyone to cut off the poor beasts' arms and paws so that everyone could have one.

[klondike]

You misunderstood it. You know the yanks can't spell. It was meant to be bare arms and was put in there by some senators with shares in Nivea.

[Dextrous63]

Ah.  Would that mean that Teddy "bare" Roosevelt was actually a streaker?  How  embarrassing😬