Nigel Has a Plan........Or Two

Started by Raven, August 26, 2025, 09:27:32 AM

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klondike

Quote from: JBR on Yesterday at 12:06:15 PMJRM talks a great deal of sense and, although a Conservative MP, is likely to agree with and support the next Reform UK government.
There have been suggestions that he ought to leave the Conservatives and join Reform.  In my opinion, that is irrelevant.  As long as his constituents support him in the next GE and he remains an MP, I have every confidence that he would support what Reform proposes, in fact, what this country desperately needs.
He lost his seat in the last election. He remains a party member though sfaik.

JBR

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Quote from: klondike on Yesterday at 01:52:29 PMHe lost his seat in the last election. He remains a party member though sfaik.
Thank you.  I was unaware that he had lost his seat.  I'd be interested to know which party took his seat?

Regardless of that, should be decide that Reform is the only political party now worth supporting, perhaps he might offer to stand for them.  He is certainly a strong pro-British politician.

Addendum:  I see it was, of all things, the Labour party!  There is no limit to the stupidity of some people.
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GrannyMac

He is disliked by many because he is privileged. The politics of envy does no one any favours.  I always think it ironic though when Labour MPs, after despising anyone seen as well off, jump on the bandwagon.  Blair was a prime example, and our current Dep is clueless (or doesn't give a toss) about the public perception of her behaviour.
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klondike

I fear he may be tempted to go beyond what I would consider fair treatment. I'm happy that most boat migrants get rejected but what if they did have a genuine claim? It won't stop me voting Reform though as we really do need to put a stop to this as it will bring the country down to third world standards eventually. 

I'm also concerned with political (two tier) policing and justice and suppression of free speech. Anybody here must know that I dislike any form of censorship.

Ashy

Anyone with a genuine claim will have made it known to the diplomatic service and they won't be entering on a little rubber boat. imho.

JBR

Quote from: GrannyMac on Today at 08:35:12 AMHe is disliked by many because he is privileged. The politics of envy does no one any favours.  I always think it ironic though when Labour MPs, after despising anyone seen as well off, jump on the bandwagon.  Blair was a prime example, and our current Dep is clueless (or doesn't give a toss) about the public perception of her behaviour.
Absolutely.  Wen ah wer a lad, Labour was the party for all working people (though I have never voted for them).  My dad always did, at least at first. 
Each and every Labour MP who I have seen could be regarded as distinctly middle-class, or higher, and certainly pretty well-off of course.  In that respect, Labour are no longer representative of the working class, especially manual workers, like they once were.  They are now more like Communists.
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GrannyMac

No one could call Rayner middle class. No matter how much money she has. Or Dennis Skinner, or Blunkett, who used to be MP here.  But they at least sounded reasonably articulate. 
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klondike

My father told me that he was put off Labour for life by this debacle. £millions down the pan because Labour failed to take the advice of experts or come to that anybody with a ha'porth of common sense. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_groundnut_scheme

He did vote Labour again when well into retirement as he thought they may favour pensioners. We know now that that won't be happening with the current bunch. Not sure if it did for him.

Labour - tipping taxpayers' cash down the toilet over the generations.

JBR

Quote from: klondike on Today at 12:21:12 PMMy father told me that he was put off Labour for life by this debacle. £millions down the pan because Labour failed to take the advice of experts or come to that anybody with a ha'porth of common sense. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanganyika_groundnut_scheme

He did vote Labour again when well into retirement as he thought they may favour pensioners. We know now that that won't be happening with the current bunch. Not sure if it did for him.

Labour - tipping taxpayers' cash down the toilet over the generations.

Ah!  Clement Atlee.  Another Labour half-wit.
I'm trying to think of one - any - Labour PM who did something really good for us and our country.
Any suggestions?
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klondike

I can think of one that did extraordinarily well for himself...

JBR

Quote from: klondike on Today at 01:09:38 PMI can think of one that did extraordinarily well for himself...
Bliar?
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