Epping

[Ashy]

Perhaps Butlins !!!.. Pontins.!!!!.. Warners!!!!! ... will be the next to welcome them with open arms..
  They mostly have little boating lakes... they will feel at home there..

They have taken at least one Pontins holiday camp I think. If not the government are reconsidering it as we speak.

I fear that the Epping council has only obtained a temporary injunction, so we must hope that the law is clarified so that there is a de-facto permanent ban. BUT I would point out that Blackpool council tried much the same tactic to prevent the loss of the landmark seafront Metropole  hotel and they failed.

To get round it the government only has to find a way to reclassify the hotels as hostels or HMOs (presumably without local planning permission) and as if by magic, they are no longer "migrant hotels" and the illegals can stay in them.

[klondike]

What was the legal grounds they got the result on? Change of use or something?

[Michael Rolls]

Planning permission was for an hotel. Judgement was it wasn't being used as such

[klondike]

Makes sense - I thought it must be something like that.

[Alex]

All they need to do is allocate a couple of rooms to be made available to the general public and it's a hotel - not that anyone would want to stay in a hotel full of illegals.

[muddy]

Tent on the Shetlands would discourage illegals 

[klondike]

All they need to do is allocate a couple of rooms to be made available to the general public and it's a hotel - not that anyone would want to stay in a hotel full of illegals.

They don't have to be filled - just a couple of vacancies. I think if they did that it really would stir up a hornets nest as would any other shenanigans. The locals scent victory. Snatch that away and things could turn nasty.

I always flew a flag at the caravan and brought the pole and flags back when I gave it up. I flew them until the last one apart from a Lest we Forget got too tatty to fly. By rights I should now get some more but I'm a coward. Because of the failings of a police force to take the shotgun certificate away from somebody whose family had pleaded with them to gun licencing has got a whole lot tougher and more expensive. To keep mine I intend to keep squeaky clean and there are more immigrants than native British in these parts so I don't want to stir anything up.

It really comes to something when anybody is reluctant to fly either of their national flags. I think trouble could be coming.

[Scrumpy]

Empty Hotels... to house illegals.... !!!
We haven't gained anything by complaining and getting them out...
There will just be a re-shuffle and they  will be housed elsewhere...
The shops on the high street that are closing their doors..
All empty buildings.. 

The real problem is that we are accommodating them...

The government will still house them.. No amount of shouting from us will change this..
I think Ireland had the right idea when they threw a few fire bombs at buildings..
And if that sounds harsh and (war) like then so be it..
Treating them with kid gloves.. is just not working..
 They are a law unto themselves..

[Ashy]

I don't want to give them ideas but all the government has to do is change planing law so that a hotel can be used as residential accommodation. They'll do something like this for certain. I've also heard they are buying hotels to convert to HMOs, and you know as well as I do that when the local authority refuses planning permission (assuming it's still needed) the secretary of state for muiltiple council houses, will grant it over the heads of locals. 

[Dextrous63]

Aye.  And by changing this classification, they can also claim that they count towards the millions of new homes they're building this parliament.

August 21, 2025, 10:26:34 AM
Meanwhile...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/somali-asylum-epping-hotel-protests-b1243859.html

He claims he has done nothing wrong.  Er, how about paying criminals to give him a ride over in a dinghy, instead of using more "regular" means such as visiting an embassy and putting his request for asylum there.  All this, quite apart that the countries he traversed were also safe.

[Dextrous63]

[Ashy]

...they can also claim that they count towards the millions of new homes they're building this parliament.

I hadn't thought of that but they will won't they.

[JBR]

A clear example of the possible future, in fact the probable future.

Over the centuries, the British people have fought for their country, worked hard for their country, and made it what became the strongest and most highly respected country in the world.

Since 1990, due to poor government and corruption of senior management in many areas, we have witnessed a steady decline.  This has not only continued, but has grown enormously since our present government came to power, thanks to an unusually small number of votes.  It is likely to continue for at least another four years.

What can we possibly do over those next four years?  Must we accept further ruin of all we have?

[Dextrous63]

So, I read today...
A 14-year-old boy said an asylum seeker hotel resident asked his female friend if she wanted to come to the Bell Hotel "to have babies then... go to Kenya", a court heard.
The boy said, in a police video interview played at Colchester Magistrates' Court on Wednesday, that he was with friends including the 14-year-old girl when the man asked them for a slice of their pizza in Epping, Essex.
The boy said they gave the man the food on July 7 this year and then the man "asked to have babies with (the 14-year-old girl) and this other girl, then he asked for a kiss from both of them".
"He just said they're pretty and he also said do you want to come to the Bell Hotel to have babies then we could go to Kenya with each other," the boy said.
Bell Hotel resident Hadush Gerberslasie Kebatu, who gave his date of birth as December 1986, making him 38 years old, denies five charges including sexual assault.
A second 14-year-old boy said in his police video interview that the migrant said he "paid about 2,500 euro to get on a rubber dinghy to come to our country".
"He was just staring at us the whole time, we went into Tesco and he was following us," the boy said.
Describing a comment the man allegedly made to a girl in the group, the boy said: "The geezer said 'come back to Africa, you would be a good wife'."

[JBR]

I'm sure that this, or other interactions like it, happen every day in certain parts of our country.
Some, certain types of people, call it 'progress'.