Putin V Trump - again

[Mups]

I am not 'into'  Politics as a rule,  but this Trump v Putin things looks to be getting worse.

I just saw this article about what Trump is supposed to have said on his social media:


"I've always had a very good relationship with Vladimir Putin of Russia, but something has happened to him.
He has gone absolutely CRAZY!" wrote Donald Trump.
"I've always said that he wants ALL of Ukraine, not just a piece of it, and maybe that's proving to be right, but if he does, it will lead to the downfall of Russia!"


Doesn't look like either of these two stubborn,  power-hungry men will ever be sensible.

[Scrumpy]

I'm with Trump on this..
Putin has no intention of putting an end to this stupid war..
... and it goes on and on and on..
I think it is costing us a few bob too..

Then we have another war going on in the Middle East between Israel and Hamas - led Palestine.. 
... and it goes on and on and on..
I think it is costing us a few bob too..

There will always be wars somewhere or other..
Each one seeing innocent people being killed..
.. and it goes on and on and on.

Fed up reading about them..They are like buses..
All quiet for a while then three come along ...
All costing money to others..

[JBR]

I agree, Crump.
In my opinion, Putin is trying to recover his country's 'empire' of East Europe bit by bit.
He has dared to try it on first with Ukraine, simply because they have not joined NATO.

Even now, he is struggling to the extent that he tried to obtain help from his friend North Korea.  That didn't work too well, did it?  The Korean troops apparently couldn't understand Russian!

It will be very interesting if he tries it on with a NATO country, basically just about every European nation apart from Byelorussia, assuming that the US remains a NATO member!

[Ashy]

Russia is most likely to win against Ukraine so either Ukraine makes terms or they are crushed. 

[JBR]

Russia is most likely to win against Ukraine so either Ukraine makes terms or they are crushed.

Perhaps, but before they are crushed, they will have seriously depleted Putin's forces.  They will also quite probably have caused any potential allies of Russia to think again and turn against them.  China could then become the strongest opponent (at least presently not in favour of war) of NATO.

[klondike]

China already is.

[Raven]

That Putin's mind is going dolally, time he was put in a nursing home for the mentally ill.

[JBR]

China already is.

Yes, certainly financially.  I don't quibble with that, as I have bought some good quality goods from China.

[klondike]

The Russian army has been fighting Ukraine since February 2022 in an operation that was supposed to take Ukraine in a couple of weeks and is still failing. The initial invasion attempt was thwarted before all the arms donations.

Russia are losing around 1,000 soldiers and plenty of military hardware a day to gain a bit of countryside in the east. 

They still don't have complete control of the bits they annexed apart from Crimea which they snatched in 2014.

In the last few days Ukraine destroyed about a third of Russia's strategic nuclear bombers on airfields some  thousands of kilometres from Ukraine. 

There has been another strike against the Kerch bridge the Russians built to Crimea seriously damaging one of the massive supports.

Tell me how can you consider that army to be the strongest in the world behind NATO (which is essentially the US and small change).

[Scrumpy]

If Russia are as (fearful) as we have always been led to believe why are they still fighting with little old Ukraine..?
Putin doesn't want trouble with others.. he knows he wouldn't stand a chance..

[JBR]

If Russia are as (fearful) as we have always been led to believe why are they still fighting with little old Ukraine..?
Putin doesn't want trouble with others.. he knows he wouldn't stand a chance..

As we all now know, Putin is finding the Ukraine a bit of a problem and certainly not the quick walk-over he was hoping for.  Yes, of course the West is providing arms and other support to Ukraine, but the fighting on the ground is virtually Ukrainians alone.  At the same time, Russia is losing a lot of manpower to the extent that Putin had to ask for help from N. Korea.
If he is still struggling with a single small country like Ukraine, I'm sure you're correct that he certainly can't extend his war into other countries.  Even better, they immediate ones are all members of NATO, so he'd be taking on the whole of Europe even if America decided not to join in.
He would be well advised to hang on to what he has, perhaps including Crimea, and consolidate his control of Russia itself.

[klondike]

Looks like you've changed your mind then....

Perhaps, but before they are crushed, they will have seriously depleted Putin's forces.  They will also quite probably have caused any potential allies of Russia to think again and turn against them.  China could then become the strongest opponent (at least presently not in favour of war) of NATO.

China already is.

Yes, certainly financially.  I don't quibble with that, as I have bought some good quality goods from China.