Just When I Thought Starmer Couldn't Get Any More Stupid

[Diasi]

He goes & proves me wrong.

Apart from him being one of only two of the G7 leaders to attend COP 29, he, triumphantly, declares that the UK will reduce it's carbon emissions by 81.2% by 2035.

So he'll screw the entire UK population to reduce global emissions by 81.2% of our current 1%.

[klondike]

It won't happen. The annual targets that go with the car mandate is already destroying the car industry.

People won't buy electric cars in the numbers they want - too expensive  to buy, depreciation too high, insurance costs too high, less reliable than ICE cars, more expensive running costs using public chargers, the incentives running out, too inconvenient to take on long trips. The major buyers are business for tax advantages,

Heat pumps - unsuited to older homes without huge cost and not possible in many whatever the cost. Supported by £7,500 taxpayer grants and still the takeup is slow.

Suppose they did get all the cars and heatpumps in operation - what chance is there that the grid can cope? I'd say zero on that one - they were sweating on cuts last winter and offering incentives to reduce consumption the last couple of years. Our last coal fired power station has now closed.

No matter how many wind turbines and solar farms they have when the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine they produce SFA. There will be huge costs associated with linking up the vast number of extra renewable sources and still fossil fuels and high cost imported electricty over linksto the continent will be needed and indeed upgraded too.

It ain't happeming in the timescale they are talking about. It can't.

[JBR]

It won't happen. The annual targets that go with the car mandate is already destroying the car industry.

People won't buy electric cars in the numbers they want - too expensive  to buy, depreciation too high, insurance costs too high, less reliable than ICE cars, more expensive running costs using public chargers, the incentives running out, too inconvenient to take on long trips. The major buyers are business for tax advantages,

Heat pumps - unsuited to older homes without huge cost and not possible in many whatever the cost. Supported by £7,500 taxpayer grants and still the takeup is slow.

Suppose they did get all the cars and heatpumps in operation - what chance is there that the grid can cope? I'd say zero on that one - they were sweating on cuts last winter and offering incentives to reduce consumption the last couple of years. Our last coal fired power station has now closed.

No matter how many wind turbines and solar farms they have when the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine they produce SFA. There will be huge costs associated with linking up the vast number of extra renewable sources and still fossil fuels and high cost imported electricty over linksto the continent will be needed and indeed upgraded too.

It ain't happeming in the timescale they are talking about. It can't.

Absolutely.  Yet more of the current nonsense spouted by naive and trendy idiots like FreeGear.
Yes, we no longer burn coal, but at least we have many millions of tons of the stuff still underground, waiting for our glorious leaders to wobble their heads.
In the meantime, we can still burn wood transported from Canada on diesel-powered ships.  One advantage being that wood will grow again.
Of course, we mustn't forget our wonderful wind turbines which provide reliable electrical power when the wind happens to blow.  Don't worry about what we have had to do to produce the things.

I like to be positive in all respects and I think that in the future, perhaps when all the lights have gone out and we have somehow managed to put in place leaders in possession of brains who finally realise that despite all our efforts the climate is still changing, we can start to dig up coal again.

[Diasi]

No matter how many wind turbines and solar farms they have when the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine they produce SFA.

Ah, Miliband has already got a solution to this problem.

I've read an article where he says that everyone will have to accept having no power when this happens.

For the greater good of the UK's reputation with the world's climate lobby of course.

[Raven]

The UK isn't one of the big bad countries either, sure we have a bit, but he'd be better going after the likes of China or the US.

[klondike]

He'd get very short shrift from any other country in the world. I reckon he must know where some of Starmer's skeletons are buried otherwise the clown would be out of a job. They all will be come the next election with the only questions being how soon can that be and if early just how much damage did it take.

[JBR]

The UK isn't one of the big bad countries either, sure we have a bit, but he'd be better going after the likes of China or the US.

He wouldn't dare.  He worships China, and no doubt Russia too.
I foresee a distinct change of heart on his side now that Trump has been re-elected!

[Ashy]

The really sad part as far as I am concerned is that apart from making our lives less comfortable, it will make no difference whatsoever to the planet, the climate, or the air. And they know that too, which makes their virtue posturing all the more annoying and stupid.

[dextrous63]

Presumably Starmer intends to buy anything "dirty" from overseas which will lessen our emission stats.  It's an accountancy type of con.

[klondike]

It's called de-industrialisation. In a generation's time our descendents will be on dinghies heading for France hoping to cross Europe to Italy or Greece then another boat across the Med to that land of milk and honey known currently as Africa.

[JBR]

It's called de-industrialisation. In a generation's time our descendents will be on dinghies heading for France hoping to cross Europe to Italy or Greece then another boat across the Med to that land of milk and honey known currently as Africa.

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Actually, it might sound funny but the more I see...

[dextrous63]

🤣🤣🤣
Actually, it might sound funny but the more I see...

We could bang on about black supremacy when we get there.