Tommy Robinson

[Vlad]

I doubt that he actually knows anything about Tommy Robinson, he just sucks up all the rubbish spouted in the media about him.

It does show the weakness of our Jury system though.

Anyway, Vlad, since you boast about being ex-military you may wish to know that Tommy Robinson became active in politics when he lived in his home town of Luton & watched a Muslim mob charging through the town shouting "death to British soldiers", so where he is today started as a result of him sticking up for you & your ilk.

I do snigger when people say  ilk.

October 30, 2024, 10:38:20 AM

Vlad, may I be so bold as to ask whether you have watched the film or not?  If not, then how can you judge the case without being informed of the facts?

Ahh the film provides THE FACTS whose facts?
I have watched documentaries about the rise of the Nazi Party, I gather they are similar.

[Vlad]

I'd hazard a guess at no    which is why he's talking about Robinson attacking immigrants, burning their homes and other such rubbish, instead of watching the film and being able to comment on it..  SOG 
Right I'm off to bed now, night night .

A bit of a fib there but let's not the truth get in the way of a good story.  but if you want to copy and paste my post that states that Tommy actually attacks immigrants and burns their homes please do so.
I won't hold my breath. 

[JBR]

Allow me to present the current Governor of Belmarsh prison.

Her face is enough to allegedly bully anyone.

I know the Telegraph has a paywall but it can be bypassed, however I only wanted to post the headline & the photo.

https://bitly.cx/fQbvL

I wonder who decided, not only that TR was guilty of breaking the law, but also to which prison to send him.

It worries me greatly to think that recently there have been 'racist' (anti-white British) judges today.  I have always believed that such people are in those positions mainly because they are completely innocent of any leanings for or against anyone regardless of who they are.
Above all, judges should be completely apolitical and unbiased and interest themselves only in the details of circumstances and whether, or to what extent, they are in contravention of the law.

As for Vlad, I'd like to think that he is just being naughty in stirring things up.

[dextrous63]

The facts I'm referring to are the points under discussion.  As you've not seen the TR film, how can you judge the arguments/points/claims within it?

I too have seen documentaries about the rise of the Nazi party.  This film is nothing like them.

FWIW, I hate the fact that the likes of TR have come to fruition.  I hate the fact that the country we live in has evolved into the state it has which means there is an increasingly popular growth in the size of the "far right".  TR, thug and crook that he is, is a product of the failures of our political classes.  What is even more irksome is that in this particular field , and in this particular case regarding the Syrian schoolboy (and other matters within his film), he might actually have a point.

[GrannyMac]

Dex, your last paragraph sums it up for me. 

[Vlad]

Here's one...


October 30, 2024, 11:32:17 AMThe facts I'm referring to are the points under discussion.  As you've not seen the TR film, how can you judge the arguments/points/claims within it?

I too have seen documentaries about the rise of the Nazi party.  This film is nothing like them.

FWIW, I hate the fact that the likes of TR have come to fruition.  I hate the fact that the country we live in has evolved into the state it has which means there is an increasingly popular growth in the size of the "far right".  TR, thug and crook that he is, is a product of the failures of our political classes.  What is even more irksome is that in this particular field , and in this particular case regarding the Syrian schoolboy (and other matters within his film), he might actually have a point.

You should work for the Daily Mail, your quote indicated that I lied. Not nice.

October 30, 2024, 12:02:15 PM
I think I will leave this thread now, and let you all get on with it.

[dextrous63]

You should work for the Daily Mail, your quote indicated that I lied. Not nice.

Obviously done in jest.😉
Removed now, out of respect👍😊

[klondike]

I wonder who decided, not only that TR was guilty of breaking the law

I'm guessing it may have been the same judge who's court order he breached. There is no question that was the case. The only arguments are about whether the setting of that court order was fair (I'd guess it was legal even if unfair).

[JBR]

FWIW, I hate the fact that the likes of TR have come to fruition.  I hate the fact that the country we live in has evolved into the state it has which means there is an increasingly popular growth in the size of the "far right".  TR, thug and crook that he is, is a product of the failures of our political classes.  What is even more irksome is that in this particular field , and in this particular case regarding the Syrian schoolboy (and other matters within his film), he might actually have a point.

I agree.  It appears that there is an increase in the 'far right' in this country, but the reason is that there also seems to be an increase in the 'far left'.  The one results in the other, though it could be argued which instigated the situation.

I am sure that the increasing number of illegal (and in some cases legal) immigration from the Third World has been the root cause.  We should then consider who brought that situation about.
Labour, of course, is the obvious culprit, but we should also accept that fourteen years of ineffective Conservative government has had at least contributed seriously.

In my opinion, like them or not, there will be even more 'Tommy Robinsons' in the coming years as the ongoing situation continues.  Some may condemn them, but many see them as no more than a perfectly natural reaction to what many of us see as continuing unwanted arrivals in our country.

[Alex]

Oh dear.. this is getting harder..put aside your 'corrupt judges' and Tommy is innocent and the. 'Elite' want him silenced...what is his plan? Will he continue to rule and direct the mob, attack immigrants on sight, burn their homes...what's the plan? Remove ALL immigrants..how?

[Diasi]

FWIW, I hate the fact that the likes of TR have come to fruition.  I hate the fact that the country we live in has evolved into the state it has which means there is an increasingly popular growth in the size of the "far right".  TR, thug and crook that he is, is a product of the failures of our political classes.  What is even more irksome is that in this particular field , and in this particular case regarding the Syrian schoolboy (and other matters within his film), he might actually have a point.

If Muslims hadn't marched through Luton in 2009 shouting "death to British soldiers", Tommy Robinson wouldn't exist.

This is a link to another Muslim march through Luton, this time chanting "British Police burn in hell".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00pbclq

Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon would be living an obscure life in Luton.

I found this interesting & it's making me have doubts about my membership & donations to Reform.

https://bitly.cx/Ou5r

[Diasi]

I think it's important to emphasise that it's accepted, by me, that Tommy Robinson did commit a Contempt of Court offence & was rightly prosecuted for it.

It's also not accepted by me that, given all the available witness evidence, Tommy Robinson defamed the claimant & the verdict, in my opinion, was politically based.

[Diasi]

This is for anyone who's interested.

[muddy]

Looks like it been zapped .

[Alex]

He's been moved to a different prison apparently.