Tommy Robinson

[Diasi]

My initial (and probably wrong😢😢🙄) understanding is that the judge or the defamation trial was unwilling to accept evidence that was garnered without the permission ( or indeed knowledge that the info was going to be used this way, yet alone presented in court) of those who gave it and would thus be unwilling to give evidence in court.  He was also unwilling to accept hearsay.

Seems reasonable to me.  Although, for TR it must have been highly frustrating since he knows exactly what was said and disclosed to him, which is what he believes/knows to be the truth.

Hardly the judge's fault.🤷🏻�♂️

Well all credit to you for admitting, in advance, that you were probably wrong.

Five witnesses, all of whom had first-hand evidence, including a girl who the claimant assaulted with a hockey stick, did appear in court & the Judge basically dismissed them all as liars.

Also the case should have failed on one of the defences to a defamation charge, Honest Opinion, whereby it's a defence if the publisher , in this case Tommy Robinson, can show that what he published was a statement of opinion that a person could have held based on any fact which existed at the time the statement was made.

Since Tommy Robinson only investigated the case after being approached by other people who told him what really happened, plus all the documentation, some of which had been tampered with by the claimant's legal team, I find it extraordinary that he was found guilty

However, the verdict is solely down to the Judge who chose not to accept the evidence that would have helped Tommy Robinson's defence.

It's interesting that the young girl who the claimant assaulted is now studying law.

[dextrous63]

Thank you for clarifying that Di.

I haven't read that far yet.

Spoiler alert, indeed😬😬

[Diasi]

Thank you for clarifying that Di.
I haven't read that far yet.
Spoiler alert, indeed😬😬

Some people have an unshakable faith in our judicial system.

https://ministryofinjustice.co.uk/dodgy-judges/

[Vlad]

Yeah, but apart from all that, he's a good lad really😬

If he and his fans were any denser they would have event horizons, I gather his mom likes him though.

[Alex]

Have you actually watched his film ? 
Forget about Robinson for a minute and your dislike of him.  The Headmaster for one tells us what sort of a character the Syrian was, yet the British lad has been vilified.

How can that be justice ?

[dextrous63]

Some people have an unshakable faith in our judicial system.

https://ministryofinjustice.co.uk/dodgy-judges/

Having read some more of Mr Justice Nicklin's approved judgement, he does seem to rely on the lack of documentation from the school (no surprises at all, ..., in my experience schools often have dubious record keeping due to staff time constraints) as well as the natural aberration of youngsters having variable memories.

All in all he appears to have concluded (so far, and there's a way to go before I finish reading it all) that despite there being an awful lot of smoke, there is no fire whatsoever.  That, in itself, is a tad suspicious..

[Vlad]

Have you actually watched his film ? 
Forget about Robinson for a minute and your dislike of him.  The Headmaster for one tells us what sort of a character the Syrian was, yet the British lad has been vilified.

How can that be justice ?

I know little about justice, I know that the judiciary found him guilty on a number of occasions ipso facto he was put in jail. It would seem from the above posts that everyone involved, the police, the school, the boy, the lawyers, the judges, the media are the wrongdoers and Tommy is just misunderstood

[dextrous63]

Vlad, if you ignore absolutely everything else and focused on the one case under discussion, relating to the film, the judges "odd" decision to ignore/disregard evidence, then on this issue you may well come to a different conclusion about it.

Just because TR has a very dubious past doesn't mean that he must therefore always be wrong.

[Vlad]

Vlad, if you ignore absolutely everything else and focused on the one case under discussion, relating to the film, the judges "odd" decision to ignore/disregard evidence, then on this issue you may well come to a different conclusion about it.

Just because TR has a very dubious past doesn't mean that he must therefore always be wrong.

Oh dear.. this is getting harder..put aside your 'corrupt judges' and Tommy is innocent and the. 'Elite' want him silenced...what is his plan? Will he continue to rule and direct the mob, attack immigrants on sight, burn their homes...what's the plan? Remove ALL immigrants..how? 

[dextrous63]

I'm solely looking at this case Vlad.  Nothing more, nothing less.  I've seen (most of) the video and read (most of) the judgement.

All I'm saying is that it looks a bit fishy to me.  No jury involved, just one judge who made assumptions which may well have been in error.

Am not interested in anything else about TR.

[Vlad]

I'm solely looking at this case Vlad.  Nothing more, nothing less.  I've seen (most of) the video and read (most of) the judgement.

All I'm saying is that it looks a bit fishy to me.  No jury involved, just one judge who made assumptions which may well have been in error.

Am not interested in anything else about TR.

Then you ignore him at your peril

[dextrous63]

We're going in circles with this, my friend.  

[Diasi]

Have you actually watched his film ? 
Forget about Robinson for a minute and your dislike of him.  The Headmaster for one tells us what sort of a character the Syrian was, yet the British lad has been vilified.

How can that be justice ?

I don't think that checking the facts features too highly Alex.

Tommy Robinson got involved by the mother of another girl who said she was assaulted, by the claimant, & sent him photos of the injuries.

All the adult witnesses who worked with the Syrian lad, called him a combination of trouble-making, lying, little shit.

However, they were threatened with losing jobs & pensions & paid off with Non-Disclosure Agreements which cost around £225,000, plus the cost of closing the school, to try & remove all trace of the incident. 

[Vlad]

And of course you have links to that claim?

[JBR]

Clearly, there are opposing views regarding the guilt or innocence of TR regarding the latest accusations.  It appears that he is disliked by many people and, conversely, liked and supported by others.
This reflects many other people in this country today, depending upon their background and even their names.

One thing, of which I am certain, is that since the new millennium commenced there has been a much greater disagreement between the people of this country, perhaps of all levels of society, and certainly between the different races and backgrounds of people living here.

I am concerned that people of authority, such as this judge, may be likely to prefer their own opinions to those opinions traditional to the vast majority of true British people.

TR will not change his opinions and his activities.  It will be interesting to see what he does or says next and, having thought carefully about what his motives were, how the authorities react.  Do we still have the right to our own opinions in this country?  Are we to be silenced by those people in positions of power?

Yesterday at 05:58:54 PM

Just as a little addendum, some of you may like to read this:

Tommy's life is now at risk because of the decision of the governor of Belmarsh prison.

Jenny Louis (pictured above) has given Tommy the 'choice' of either being placed on the wing (which is a death sentence) or he can be moved onto 'the block' with child sex offenders, which Tommy will NEVER agree to. This is supposedly for 'monetary reasons'.

The governor has essentially passed a death sentence on Tommy. However she has a 'duty of care' to ensure his safety and wellbeing.

Tommy is currently residing in a segregated part of Belmarsh prison where he is safe, away from other prisoners, as he was previously. Let's be clear, Tommy is in Belmarsh prison for a CIVIL offence, NOT a criminal offence.

To make matters even worse, Belmarsh prison governor has told Tommy he can only have 'closed' visitation', which means he has visitation behind a screen, so he cant have any physical contact with his visitors, namely his family and friends.

We cannot allow the prison Governor to get away with this blatant abuse of power.

We have tried to dissuade people from going to Belmarsh to protest about Tommy's incarceration. We will no longer dissuade anyone from their right to legal and legitimate protest outside that prison.

We are now going to secure the services of a prison lawyer to fight Tommy's case, with your help of course.

Ezra Levant will be fronting a campaign that we will get behind and push to ensure the safety, security, and fair treatment of Tommy Robinson while he is incarcerated for the crime of journalism.

Will will update you with more information as soon as we can, because time is of the essence, this is an urgent situation that MUST be addressed as soon as possible.

Again thanks to all of you for your continued support.

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