Chris Kaba

[klondike]

I suspect probably little but he didn't want them tear-arsing across his land on a quad bike. Would you? Bear in mind that in law you have a duty of care even to trespassers. If they injure themselves on something potentially dangerous on your land they can sue you.

Already knowing this as I said before I'd have just made their quad bike vanish overnight - no risk and a bigger penalty than they'd get from a magistrate if it even got that far.

[JBR]

Police statement on trespassing


'Trespassing is not classed as a criminal offence. In most cases, this is not a matter for the police. We'd recommend the first thing to do would be to talk to the people occupying your land and ask them to leave, if you feel safe to do that.
If they refuse to leave or you feel unsure, contact your local council for advice.
You could find yourself guilty of several criminal offences if you forcibly attempt to remove them or their property.
The best and safest course of action may be to get a court order to evict them. If the court order is breached, it could become a criminal matter.
If you're aware of something that might be a crime or antisocial behaviour, then report it to us.'

Local council?!!!
I can just imagine the sort of 'advice' they'd give, even assuming that they would even bother.

As for the police, do they actually do much these days, apart from dressing up and dancing of course?  But what about 'antisocial behaviour'.  I have a good idea how today's police would interpret that, depending on the colour of the trespassers!

[muddy]

I suspect probably little but he didn't want them tear-arsing across his land on a quad bike. Would you? Bear in mind that in law you have a duty of care even to trespassers. If they injure themselves on something potentially dangerous on your land they can sue you.

Already knowing this as I said before I'd have just made their quad bike vanish overnight - no risk and a bigger penalty than they'd get from a magistrate if it even got that far.

It's was the farmer who had the quad bike and slung the boys over it and drove them to the police station .

[klondike]

Sorry after re-reading the story that should have been "I suspect probably little but he didn't want them tear-arsing across his land on an electric bike."

They must have been pretty feeble if they couldn't get their electric bike over the gate or more likely it was a rather large electric bike more akin to a motor bike.

[Diasi]

We should arm our police.. with powerful weapons..
Make us a police state .. ANYTHING to make our country a safer place to live..
If you are doing no wrong then you have nothing to worry about..

Unless you're seen carrying a wooden antique table leg, that you've just collected from the repairers, in a carrier bag.

October 25, 2024, 05:42:34 PM

He must have been intimidating to overcome two grown boys .
Wonder how he would deal with a bunch of pie keys ?
Were they actually doing any harm ?
There is no real law against trespass in the U.K. it's not considered a criminal unless there is some  damage .

Any tyre tracks they made on the farmer's land is criminal damage.

[Mups]

We have no idea how much damage these two lads had done to the field, whether there were any crops damaged (which would be income for the farmer), animals scared etc.

That's exactly what I said earlier, Dex.

Many farmers are getting machinery pinched around here.  Even big things like tractors.
Some of these yobs also start fires,  so burning all the livestock's winter feed and bedding.
They leave gates open and livestock can escape on the road.

Perhaps the farmer had had many cases this summer of people wrecking his crops/machinery/animals, and these two were the last straw.    Who knows?

Also as I said earlier,  I can't see why two young fit lads couldn't lift their bike over the farm gate to go home.  Why dump it?   These things have been known to catch fire too.

As I keep saying,  we've only heard the reporter's version of events, and I doubt he was even there!

[muddy]

The must have been completed weaklings .
What young men allow themselves to be tied up and slung over a quad bike .

Is this a send up I wonder ? 

[Mups]

The must have been completed weaklings .
What young men allow themselves to be tied up and slung over a quad bike .

Is this a send up I wonder ?

I suspect bad reporting has not given us all the facts, Muddy.

Perhaps the farmer was sick to death of chasing yobs of his property every night, and these two were the straw that broke the camel's back, as they say.

[dextrous63]

I suspect bad reporting has not given us all the facts, Muddy.

Perhaps the farmer was sick to death of chasing yobs of his property every night, and these two were the straw that broke the camel's back, as they say.

Quite!  Perhaps he was sick of being woken up by idiots running riot on his land while trying to get a few hours shut-eye.

[muddy]

Can you see two yobs meekly allowing themselves to be tied up ?

[klondike]

Well it isn't mentioned in the story but most farmers have shotguns. If he used one to get them tied he won't have one much longer,

[Mups]

Well it isn't mentioned in the story but most farmers have shotguns. If he used one to get them tied he won't have one much longer,

I thought much the same as you Klondike,  but if he did have a gun on them,  then his hands wouldn't have been free to tie the boys up, would they.  He could hardly do that one-handed?

And perhaps a bit odd that he happened to have 4 pieces of rope already cut to the right length too?

The outcome could go either way -  (a) the yobs will either never go near the place again,  or (b),  their mates could go back and torch the barn.



*  P.S.   Alex, my apologies for going off-course in your thread.   It started because it seemed like yet another example of Police supporting the criminal, not the one being wronged.

[JBR]

The outcome could go either way -  (a) the yobs will either never go near the place again,  or (b),  their mates could go back and torch the barn.

*  P.S.  Alex, my apologies for going off-course in your thread.  It started because it seemed like yet another example of Police supporting the criminal, not the one being wronged.

I agree.  The police today seem to be heavily biased against the honest British citizens, probably under directions from above.
Worse, the courts seem to be in cahoots with them!  I wonder whether Cassandra might give his expert opinion on this matter.

[Scrumpy]

Perhaps they were playing a 'tying up' game.. !!
Strange story...

[Mups]

I agree.  The police today seem to be heavily biased against the honest British citizens, probably under directions from above.
Worse, the courts seem to be in cahoots with them!  I wonder whether Cassandra might give his expert opinion on this matter.

Just had a thought . . .  perhaps the cops and courts don't want to do anything because what can they do with them if the prisons are all full?

A lot of criminals could take advantage of this, as they know they probably won't get sent to prison.