Mother Nature Fights Back.

Started by Raven, May 09, 2024, 09:35:24 AM

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JBR

Quote from: Raven on May 10, 2024, 10:58:47 AMThey were warned over and over by the locals of what would/could happen. But they went ahead anyway....Money wins again.
Well, someone has to pay, and I'm sure I'm not paying.
Surely, the company who erected them will be found to have failed to research and prepare.  Why should we pay?
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klondike

You'll pay indirectly. The last round of turbine licences remained unsubscribed until the agreed price for the energy was increased. Rishi doesn't pay that personally. We all do in increased energy prices.

They'll obviously site turbines where there is the most reliable wind. Where they failed was in putting that above where they could safely be erected. There is only a pause in the process. They will wait a while and then just carry on with maybe some small change in procedure.

Cassandra

Quote from: JBR on May 10, 2024, 10:52:01 AMI was unaware of this.  In fact, I cannot believe that the people responsible for siting those windmills didn't have the common sense to consider the strength of suitable foundations and the type of land on which they were erecting those things.
Then again, this is 2024.

In the North of England in Lincolnshire, 'Lord Camerons father in law' Sir Reginald Sheffield', is big into the scheme (funny that). The Windmill Barons receive 'Wayleave' remittances termed Constraint payments. So when the wind blows too much and the National Grid can't carry any more current than presently being consumed they get turned off. 'Reggie' and his mates however still get paid by HMG as if they are at it full bore. They then leave their ugly towers turned on however and sell the energy to 'Private Consumers' or battery farms at a cheaper rate!

As Del Boy would say lubbly jubbly - you couldn't make it up!

When I told my American pals over here the story they at first refused to believe it (Gov't Scuttlebuck they called it) and of course they're right. One said even "Richard Nixon would get jail for that, these guys must pray for still days - double your money"! 

When Starmer gets in, the full disclosure of a lot of the skullduggery of schemes like this over the past 14 years will hit the ventilator big time. He'll make sure of it. The 'Blue Rat One Nation/Green Tory Bawbags know this too. Thay's why they're deserting the ship big time compared even to previous Tory meltdowns ...
My little Dog - A heartbeat at my feet ...

JBR

Quote from: Cassandra on May 10, 2024, 02:56:34 PMIn the North of England in Lincolnshire, 'Lord Camerons father in law' Sir Reginald Sheffield', is big into the scheme (funny that). The Windmill Barons receive 'Wayleave' remittances termed Constraint payments. So when the wind blows too much and the National Grid can't carry any more current than presently being consumed they get turned off. 'Reggie' and his mates however still get paid by HMG as if they are at it full bore. They then leave their ugly towers turned on however and sell the energy to 'Private Consumers' or battery farms at a cheaper rate!

As Del Boy would say lubbly jubbly - you couldn't make it up!

When I told my American pals over here the story they at first refused to believe it (Gov't Scuttlebuck they called it) and of course they're right. One said even "Richard Nixon would get jail for that, these guys must pray for still days - double your money"! 

When Starmer gets in, the full disclosure of a lot of the skullduggery of schemes like this over the past 14 years will hit the ventilator big time. He'll make sure of it. The 'Blue Rat One Nation/Green Tory Bawbags know this too. Thay's why they're deserting the ship big time compared even to previous Tory meltdowns ...

Well said, Cass.
I can't wait to hear what Sir Kneel says (assuming he does get into government).

I didn't know about selling surplus electricity to private consumers, though.  In fact, I was under the belief that if the wind is too strong they stop and feather the windmill vanes to prevent damage to them, though I stand to be corrected of course.

As for Lincolnshire being in the North, oh dear no.  Definitely not!  We Northerners, especially Yorkies, are rather particular about who we admit into our sacred parts of England.
No, Lincolnshire is most definitely in either the Midlands or the East.  😉
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Raven

I don't consider any of England to be up North. To us real northern folks your way down south. North is where we are, smack on the Pentland Firth.  :1020:

klondike

Quote from: JBR on May 10, 2024, 03:14:44 PMI didn't know about selling surplus electricity to private consumers, though.  In fact, I was under the belief that if the wind is too strong they stop and feather the windmill vanes to prevent damage to them, though I stand to be corrected of course.
I didn't know about alternate sales but I think there are two reasons for stopping them spinning. I think they get paid for both. One is when the wind would damage the turbine and the other is when the grid can't use the supply.

JBR

Quote from: Raven on May 10, 2024, 04:12:15 PMI don't consider any of England to be up North. To us real northern folks your way down south. North is where we are, smack on the Pentland Firth.  :1020:
So you're in the North of England?  Good for you.  Certainly the best place to live...
well, apart from one or two not particularly nice places, I suppose.
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Raven

Quote from: JBR on May 10, 2024, 05:06:48 PMSo you're in the North of England?  Good for you. 

 :nooo:  :nooo:  :nooo:

muddy

Thank you raven and Klondike for explanations .
These things are ginormous the must weigh tomes .


JBR

Aye, you don't have these problems with nuclear power stations.  😏
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klondike

The main problem with nuclear is getting the damned things actually built.

JBR

Quote from: klondike on May 11, 2024, 05:16:30 PMThe main problem with nuclear is getting the damned things actually built.
The main problem with getting the nuclear power stations built is getting the damned government to think outside their 'windmill box'.
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klondike

They'll have gto eventually. 5 million static turbines are outclassed by a £300 Honda petrol generator when the wind don't blow and when it does there is no way of storing any excess energy.

Raven

Quote from: JBR on May 11, 2024, 05:55:01 PMThe main problem with getting the nuclear power stations built is getting the damned government to think outside their 'windmill box'.

We have one up here beside us.... Well, along the coast a wee bit. It's proper name is "Dounreay" but it's mostly called "The Blot"
The beach "Sandside" it overlooks is lovely, but I seldom went there for our walk.