Margaret Thatcher

[Diasi]

[JBR]

The soporific socialist pit that is the EU encourages dumbed down wet politicians. Huge pay and no responsibility. I blame this approach totally for the spongers we have in the UK Parliament now.

Something I have been saying for years now, though admittedly not quite as well put!

I am sure that it is the real case that those who persuaded us to join the EU, or at least to stay after its 'transformation', were the ones who were going to benefit from it: politicians.  Same pay; less work.

Of course, now that we have 'left', if you want to call it leaving, we are now free to run our country as we like and for our own benefit, except...

well, we still seem to be working under what were their rules, though of course they call them 'our' rules now!

[ansu]

As you want to continue doing business with the EU countries, your goods have to meet the EU requirements and as far as I know the number of migrants hasn't reduced considerably since the Brexit. So what are the advtanges of the Brexit - no idea, maybe I am too daft. 
Erasmus, for instance was a super initiative for your and our students to exchange views and to get to know each other better. I think, I already told you my granddaughter wanted to study in the UK, but compared to other countries the UK university fees are astronomically high, so she decided in favour of the Netherlands. 

[JBR]

As you want to continue doing business with the EU countries, your goods have to meet the EU requirements and as far as I know the number of migrants hasn't reduced considerably since the Brexit. So what are the advtanges of the Brexit - no idea, maybe I am too daft.

It's perfectly simple.
We British prefer to be governed by a group of people we have directly elected.

EU countries may have their own local parliaments, I don't know, but the rules come down from the EU parliament which is led by the EU Commission, which is not elected by the people.

It's a matter of democracy, something we fought for many years ago, and something I think you also used to have... sometimes!

[Diasi]

As you want to continue doing business with the EU countries, your goods have to meet the EU requirements and as far as I know the number of migrants hasn't reduced considerably since the Brexit. So what are the advtanges of the Brexit - no idea, maybe I am too daft.
Erasmus, for instance was a super initiative for your and our students to exchange views and to get to know each other better. I think, I already told you my granddaughter wanted to study in the UK, but compared to other countries the UK university fees are astronomically high, so she decided in favour of the Netherlands.

Our goods have to meet the requirements of any country to which we export, including the EU.

If the EU only allows vacuum that can't suck a milkshake then we'll have to export vacuum cleaners that can't suck a milkshake to them.

It doesn't mean that we should have to have the same.

[JBR]

Our goods have to meet the requirements of any country to which we export, including the EU.

If the EU only allows vacuum that can't suck a milkshake then we'll have to export vacuum cleaners that can't suck a milkshake to them.

It doesn't mean that we should have to have the same.

I'm sure that the EU countries are happy to have such things, strong vacuum cleaners for example, just as long as they make them themselves.
I have come to realise that they put in place rules - flexible rules! - which work in their favour and not ours, simply because we had the temerity to leave their 'club'!

That suits me, especially as I read recently that we are to be involved in the production of 'AUKUS' nuclear submarines for Australia (and ourselves); something beyond anything the EU is capable of producing for itself.
I hope that this is a sign of how we can progress beyond what the EU can manage, despite their working against us.

I should add that I believe there are some individual countries within the EU who have no hatred for us, and likewise us for them, or I sincerely hope so.  If the EU should collapse in the near future, which I hope, perhaps we can join those countries in a productive alliance, like the EEC: business rather than political control.

[GrannyMac]

Here's a thought.  As most immigrants who want to claim asylum arrive somewhere in mainland Europe, the European parliament could devise a dispersal plan.  Instead of Germany, Italy and France (then onward to UK) taking the bulk, why not send them to Slovakia, Romania and other parts of Eastern Europe?

If they then achieved citizenship, they'd be free to move around the EU, but they'd be properly documented.

[klondike]

From what I can make out the French treat them like shit so the only draw factor there is the onward trip across the channel. If the French really pulled their finger out in stopping that instead of escorting them our way once launched it would remove the draw of France.

I think the EU already have a migrant sharing scheme. Orban for one has given it the two finger salute. IMO Merkle is the most guilty with her all welcome stance earlier.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eus-top-court-slashes-hungarian-law-outsource-aslyum-applications/

[JBR]

From what I can make out the French treat them like shit so the only draw factor there is the onward trip across the channel. If the French really pulled their finger out in stopping that instead of escorting them our way once launched it would remove the draw of France.

I think the EU already have a migrant sharing scheme. Orban for one has given it the two finger salute. IMO Merkle is the most guilty with her all welcome stance earlier.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eus-top-court-slashes-hungarian-law-outsource-aslyum-applications/

Absolutely.

The Frogs are happy to let them in, but give them nowt and thus encourage them to set sail for Treasure Island.
The fact that they continue to come here is entirely our own fault...
though by that I mean the Lords, the Church, the Civil Service, and all general do-gooders.

The majority of British people do not want them, but what can we do?  Only vote!

[klondike]

Except that the shower you list are there without the public voting for them and can't be voted out.

[JBR]

Except that the shower you list are there without the public voting for them and can't be voted out.

Absolutely.
However, all is not lost.
There have been suggestions that, with the right party in government, it is possible that the Lords could be closed down, or at least adapted so as to have no control over the elected government.
It should be even easier for a good government to take control of the Civil Service which has now, somehow, managed to make itself untouchable.
The Church is already making itself less interesting to more and more British people, led by Welby, though seems now to be very attractive to new immigrants to this country for some inexplicable reason.

[Cassandra]

From what I can make out the French treat them like shit so the only draw factor there is the onward trip across the channel. If the French really pulled their finger out in stopping that instead of escorting them our way once launched it would remove the draw of France.

I think the EU already have a migrant sharing scheme. Orban for one has given it the two finger salute. IMO Merkle is the most guilty with her all welcome stance earlier.

https://www.politico.eu/article/eus-top-court-slashes-hungarian-law-outsource-aslyum-applications/

I call my little Dog 'Merkle' (Biewer Terrier) as an alternative monicker to her given name of 'Holly' upon adoption. Two reasons;

1) She is an unelected Teutonic Mistress of the World, to all other creatures she dominates and co-habits with, but also stupidly

2) She lets everyone in ...

Germany has produced some right 'wackadoos' over the years. Their more recent contributions to 'Global' instability, include the said 'Mutter Merkle' and the ongoing freak creep that is Klaus Schwab. The creator of the WEF, the Davos based dystopian elite (mission statement " you vill own nuthzink, unt vant nuthzink) should surely qualify for inclusion to the V&A Museum's recent chamber of horrors.

Seeing as they've already reserved Adolf his place.

[Diasi]

Germany has produced some right 'wackadoos' over the years. Their more recent contributions to 'Global' instability, include the said 'Mutter Merkle' and the ongoing freak creep that is Klaus Schwab. The creator of the WEF, the Davos based dystopian elite (mission statement " you vill own nuthzink, unt vant nuthzink) should surely qualify for inclusion to the V&A Museum's recent chamber of horrors.

How right you are.

Schwab is part of the New World Order, which often gets me dubbed as a conspiracy theorist.

Basically it's a catch-all term for those individuals & organisations who want to control all aspects of everyone's lives & they're doing it by financial manipulation & by destroying the fabric of our societal structure & long-held social values & norms.

[Cassandra]

Schwab was the founding creator of the 'thing'' on the 24th of January 1971.

A date that will live in infamy

[Diasi]

Schwab was the founding creator of the 'thing'' on the 24th of January 1971.

A date that will live in infamy

For those who don't know anything about him & think that the New World Order is a conspiracy theory myth, I suggest they read about him & his aims.

https://www.weforum.org/about/klaus-schwab/