A Message for Xmas to all Boat People ...

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Alex

Quote from: ansu on December 30, 2023, 10:11:05 AMFor some reason - probably religious ones - women aren't allowed to use contraceptives and children are their "pensions".  When I was in Turkey about 30 years ago a couple on his honeymoon stayed in the same hotel and we talked about offsprings and they told me that children bring such a lot of happiness and fun into your life - you see a different way of thinking.

They probably sent their offsprings to Germany !

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JBR

Quote from: ansu on December 30, 2023, 10:11:05 AMFor some reason - probably religious ones - women aren't allowed to use contraceptives and children are their "pensions".  
And women are their chattels!

I'm male, but I'm glad I wasn't born into islam.
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Cassandra

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The free movement of people and money is an intrinsic principal of the EU. So that said I'd like to see them attempt stopping international payments (from German residents) on the whim of a 'Globalist' elite inside the Bundestag. To insist upon such breaches presents an impasse. But this is a world where Germany today is still 'illegally' purchasing oil etc  from Russia.

At all times Member States home legislation is superceded by the dominance of EU Regulative directions.

However that said, no member state apart from the UK seems nervous of ignoring the 'Old Bill' of Brussels the ECJ, or the 'completely unconnected' ECHR.

'Regulations' and 'directives' are prominent within the system of EU rules. These are 'signed off' by government representatives on the unelected EU's Council, before passing to the directly elected European Parliament.

These R&D's have very differential causal effects upon the National Govt's of 'member' states.

Regulations immediately pass into Member State National Law  (Statute Register) as soon as the EU Parliament passes them (foregone conclusion). Then EU member states must then pass their own legislation to facilitate the said directives into place.

I personally object to any foreign national body acting as my legislator, Judge and Jury without my National Parliament even discussing it.

How a conundrum of fixation, such as Merkel forced onto her own people through contrived conniptions in Brussels, allowing millions of unwanted immigrants to intercede Germany's boundaries, a few years back, acts as a prime example. She knew her own people would reject such machinations, so she achieved legislation in her country via the EU rubber stamp. No doubt Theresa May advised her how to manipulate this lever of by-pass, that she herself utilised so well in retaining her traitorous grip on an institution rejected by National referendum.

Hopefully the whole putrescent and fetid structure that is this Brussels founded monster will continue to careen to it's inevitable implosion. Unfortunately I think that this event will be beyond my life expectancy to witness ...
My little Dog - A heartbeat at my feet ...

JBR

An excellent explanation of how the EU works.  Thank you Cassandra.
This is why I was one of the majority who voted to leave the organisation as I, like most people, did not want my country to be ruled by a majority of foreigners.

Strangely, the way the country is being run now is, in some ways, even worse mainly because our politicians in power don't have the faintest idea how to do it!

What worries me now is that, listening to the pollsters, Labour are likely to get into power next year, and they have been promising to drag us back into the EU.  I don't know whether that is legally possible without some sort of referendum, but it wouldn't surprise me if somehow they did exactly that.

As I have said many times (here, there and everywhere!) we, the voters, get what we deserve.  I still live in hope that, despite 'predictions', Reform can get into a position of power in Westminster with a majority at best.
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Cassandra

Quote from: JBR on December 30, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAn excellent explanation of how the EU works.  Thank you Cassandra.
This is why I was one of the majority who voted to leave the organisation as I, like most people, did not want my country to be ruled by a majority of foreigners.

Strangely, the way the country is being run now is, in some ways, even worse mainly because our politicians in power don't have the faintest idea how to do it!

What worries me now is that, listening to the pollsters, Labour are likely to get into power next year, and they have been promising to drag us back into the EU.  I don't know whether that is legally possible without some sort of referendum, but it wouldn't surprise me if somehow they did exactly that.

As I have said many times (here, there and everywhere!) we, the voters, get what we deserve.  I still live in hope that, despite 'predictions', Reform can get into a position of power in Westminster with a majority at best.

I  believe Starmer will merely 'comfort' all our legislation to accept, shadow, follow and coalesce with its EU precepts, in fact exactly as it does now. All we will practically have left will be the currency. Starmer I know to be a meticulous detail man. He will gradually ensconce us in so much weed that the Sargasso sea will be as an Olympice Swimming Pool in contrast to the miry mess that awaits us. He will then contrive to get us into the Euro in his 3rd term, when all of us are gone and his progressive educative system will have produced a complete generation of socialist woke clones. In this he will succeed I have no doubt ...
My little Dog - A heartbeat at my feet ...

JBR

Quote from: Cassandra on December 30, 2023, 05:04:15 PMI  believe Starmer will merely 'comfort' all our legislation to accept, shadow, follow and coalesce with its EU precepts, in fact exactly as it does now. All we will practically have left will be the currency. Starmer I know to be a meticulous detail man. He will gradually ensconce us in so much weed that the Sargasso sea will be as an Olympice Swimming Pool in contrast to the miry mess that awaits us. He will then contrive to get us into the Euro in his 3rd term, when all of us are gone and his progressive educative system will have produced a complete generation of socialist woke clones. In this he will succeed I have no doubt ...
Indeed.  Another unattractive possible future for our country.
I just hope that his term in office will quickly upset the majority of people, especially those who voted for his party, and that a re-election can take place as quickly as possible.
Hopefully, next time more people will realise there is little point in voting either Conservative or Labour if change and improvement is what they want.
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ansu

Don't be so pessimistic - you all wanted the Brexit - you got it!
As to the EU - of course, it has to be reformed, but as we all know "God's mills grind slowly" and by the way, Mrs. Merkel didn't have any alternative - the only thing I blame her for is that she failed to register them when they crossed the border. Many of those immigrants are working now and doing a good job. 
In 1946 my family came as "refugees" to Germany and I can tell you it was a hard time!

Cassandra

Quote from: ansu on January 03, 2024, 01:32:01 PMDon't be so pessimistic - you all wanted the Brexit - you got it!
As to the EU - of course, it has to be reformed, but as we all know "God's mills grind slowly" and by the way, Mrs. Merkel didn't have any alternative - the only thing I blame her for is that she failed to register them when they crossed the border. Many of those immigrants are working now and doing a good job.
In 1946 my family came as "refugees" to Germany and I can tell you it was a hard time!

We won a referendum to leave the EU, but the full implementation of the principals of exit have never been passed, due to malefic barriers constructed by the EU. So factually the outcome of the decision is inconclusive and therefore unreliable as a thesis upon which to pass authentic opinion.

If you make a decision you always have an alternative (a choice of judgement), Merkel prevaricated after her conclusions. Germany has struggled ever since as a reflection of the consequences.
My little Dog - A heartbeat at my feet ...

JBR

Quote from: Cassandra on January 03, 2024, 03:32:50 PMWe won a referendum to leave the EU, but the full implementation of the principals of exit have never been passed, due to malefic barriers constructed by the EU. So factually the outcome of the decision is inconclusive and therefore unreliable as a thesis upon which to pass authentic opinion.
I have no doubt that they are thus responsible, but I think it is fair also to blame our own politicians for failing to take the opportunities which leaving the EU provided.

Certainly, Cameron (sorry, 'Lord' Cameron) didn't like our majority vote on that occasion and consequently resigned his position as PM.  Now, he is clearly a 'rejoiner' welcomed back into the running of the country!
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Cassandra

Quote from: JBR on January 03, 2024, 03:52:18 PMI have no doubt that they are thus responsible, but I think it is fair also to blame our own politicians for failing to take the opportunities which leaving the EU provided.

Certainly, Cameron (sorry, 'Lord' Cameron) didn't like our majority vote on that occasion and consequently resigned his position as PM.  Now, he is clearly a 'rejoiner' welcomed back into the running of the country!

The biggest traitor the UK ever created since William Joyce, namely Theresa May, deliberately connived with her European Minister 'Sir' Oliver Robbins KCMG CB to bushwack every opportunity at what you suggest after the 'people (read smucks) democratically won the referendum to leave.

Incidentally 'Sir' Oliver Robbins KCMG CB took up the Heywood Fellowship at the Blavatnik School of Government in September 2019, after which he joined Goldman Sachs as a managing director in the bank's investment banking division; joining former European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, who was the non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International at the time.

What an amazing set of coincidences - I rest my case ...
My little Dog - A heartbeat at my feet ...

GrannyMac

Quote from: ansu on January 03, 2024, 01:32:01 PMDon't be so pessimistic - you all wanted the Brexit - you got it!
As to the EU - of course, it has to be reformed, but as we all know "God's mills grind slowly" and by the way, Mrs. Merkel didn't have any alternative - the only thing I blame her for is that she failed to register them when they crossed the border. Many of those immigrants are working now and doing a good job.
In 1946 my family came as "refugees" to Germany and I can tell you it was a hard time!
I believe the refugees in 1946 were quite different, as were the reasons for their movement.  Don't people in the less affluent areas in Germany feel any resentment about the sheer numbers who have moved in? Certainly in an area of the city where I live there's been an escalation in violence, the schools were overwhelmed to the point of building new ones.  And the health service is swamped.   The people who have most recently settled there are European - thousands of Roma, mainly from Slovakia.  The police have taken over a house there to have a constant local presence, house values have decreased too, trapping some long term residents who would have moved away.   

How many politicians live in areas like that? 
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Alex

I wasn't born in 1946 Ansu, but somehow I doubt that particular movement of people brought with them mass rapes and sexual assault.   Plus the violence they bring is unbelievable, we have our home grown criminals, we do NOT need to import them.

JBR

People must realise that both of the 'two main parties' will do nothing to remove illegal immigrants, simply because none of them know what to do.
According to the news, Labour will be in charge next year, and illegal immigration will increase even more.
The problems we face now, which have been clearly outlined above will only become worse.

I think that it is not only our politicians who are determined to ruin the country.  It is also the many people who stupidly vote for them and expect some sort of improvement!
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Diasi

Quote from: JBR on December 30, 2023, 04:24:18 PMWhat worries me now is that, listening to the pollsters, Labour are likely to get into power next year, and they have been promising to drag us back into the EU.  I don't know whether that is legally possible without some sort of referendum, but it wouldn't surprise me if somehow they did exactly that.
Heath took us into the then Common Market without a referendum so Starmer will be able to take us back into the EU without a referendum.
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