The boring thread.....

[Vlad]

People said 'evil' about Thomas Cromwell as well. Hilary Mantel has a reputation as a good researcher, but who can really tell at this distance in time.  The Tudors were a questionable lot at best. A lot of written documents have survived, but how much credence can be given to them?  The people who wrote them could only give their own perspective and that may have been governed by fear of what would happen to them if they fell into the wrong hands. Wasn't it Thomas More who began the rumour the Richard III was a hunchback? 


Yesterday at 06:43:32 PMI am glad Liffey is OK, MUps.

Maybe you would have better luck if your vets supplied hearing aids for you - your local NHS seem inefficient to say the least.

Ahhh I hadn't read that about Richard 111, I must get hold of a copy of A Manfor all Seasons, I preference physical books.

[Silver Tabby]

Another Pimms Person hoo rah! We must form a club, 😀 btw Hilary Mantel painted a very bad picture of Thomas More, he was quite evil according to what I read in Wolf Hall

Somehow my reply to this became mixed up with my reply to Mups - and, no, it wasn't a Pimms moment!

Anyway - second attempt -  People said 'evil' about Thomas Cromwell as well. Hilary Mantel has a reputation as a good researcher, but who can really tell at this distance in time.  The Tudors were a questionable lot at best. A lot of written documents have survived, but how much credence can be given to them?  The people who wrote them could only give their own perspective and that may have been governed by fear of what would happen to them if they fell into the wrong hands. Wasn't it Thomas More who began the rumour the Richard III was a hunchback? 


Yesterday at 08:01:53 PM
"Sir Thomas More's unfinished History of King Richard III, written around 1513, is the foundational text that cemented Richard's reputation as a monstrous tyrant. More depicted Richard as a physically deformed, ruthless usurper who allegedly murdered his nephews (the Princes in the Tower) and ruled through fear."
 

[muddy]

Poor old Richard the Third .
Courageous betrayed and maligned .
I always liked him so much so I once nearly joined the Richard 111 society .

[Silver Tabby]

Poor old Richard the Third .
Courageous betrayed and maligned .
I always liked him so much so I once nearly joined the Richard 111 society .

He was certainly a lot better than some of them - and did not kill the princes in the tower.  I will never believe that - he had no motive anyway.

[muddy]

Henry Tudor was the probable culprit  he couldn't leave any possible Plantagenet claimants hanging  about .