Electric only cars

Started by klondike, March 30, 2023, 10:27:28 AM

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dextrous63

How about fitting motorways with scalextrix type tracks?  Then you could charge your car whilst on them😬 

Michael Rolls

klondike
no, cannot be charged. It says 'hybrid' of the back and -what irritates me - every time I switch off a message appears on the dash saying 'thanks for driving a hybrid' - as though I had any bloody choice. Oh, and since Monday I have done 51 miles, 20 of them under electric power
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Diasi

Quote from: Raven on March 31, 2023, 02:52:35 PMMy problem is that damn stupid dpf filter, the light is always coming on. Garage says I don't drive enough, and then I need to roar down the A9 in 3rd gear to burn the soot off. It does my head in. I think I drive plenty, over 100 miles a week.
You could drive 1,000 miles a week, like taxi drivers do, & get a clogged DPF.

It's the speed of the 1,000 miles that counts as the engine has to be revving fast enough to heat the DPF which will keep it clear.

A 25 mile drive in low gear at 3/4 maximum engine revs will sort it.
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JBR

Quote from: Diasi on April 01, 2023, 11:14:08 AMYou could drive 1,000 miles a week, like taxi drivers do, & get a clogged DPF.

It's the speed of the 1,000 miles that counts as the engine has to be revving fast enough to heat the DPF which will keep it clear.

A 25 mile drive in low gear at 3/4 maximum engine revs will sort it.

Or remove the DPF!
Time was that diesels were the best, even for shorter journeys...
...until 'net zero' became trendy.
I used to have a Skoda diesel (pre-DPF) and never noticed any clouds of black smoke or evil smells.  The best car I have ever had, and I kept it for many years.  The only unforeseen expense I ever suffered was the replacement of a sump plug! 
One positive outcome of disposing of it:  I received £3000 (certainly more than it was worth on re-sale), thanks to the wonderful government incentives!
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Raven

The car I had before Yeti Girl was a Freelander and it was Pre filter too. Never a problem except it's age.

klondike

Quote from: Michael Rolls on April 01, 2023, 11:11:47 AMsince Monday I have done 51 miles, 20 of them under electric power
No sir. It was petrol that charged the battery so it was all petrol power. That said I thought that they ran from the batteries less than that. The extra mileage of course comes from not having petrol do the bits it does inefficiently and recharging the battery during braking rather than just heating the brake pads up.

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Michael Rolls

come off it - two Mondeos - one petrol only did 32-34 to the gallon. The hybrid does just under 50. If it depended on the petrol lump totally the mpg would go down to the petrol only figure. Oh, and in electric mode the petrol engine is OFF
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klondike

If the energy it uses doesn't come from the petrol there where does it come from? The technology makes it more efficient but it is still powered by petrol alone.

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Michael Rolls

OK, I see what you mean. It does mean, however, that I am only using 64% as much petrol as heretofore, and there is some energy gained by regeneration, although only a few percent.
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klondike

I think it isn't just regeneration. Petrol engines have sweet spots in their efficiency depending on load and speed and I imagine there is some software in the car that exploits that and uses the battery when it is more efficient and can. I have no experience of them just a very basic knowledge of how they work. If I did drive one then I'd be intrigued by just which bits of the journey were battery and which bits ICE.  I was surprise by just how much you said it was running on battery alone although I expect the engine may well be charging the battery too during those periods unless it actually shuts off.

On the subject of efficiency and anti pollution measures in new cars I find the damned stop start system infuriating in traffic and obviously pointless on the open road. Luckily my car has an easy reach button to defeat it but only for that session. Restart the car and there it is again to annoy me.

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Michael Rolls

one of the clever displays shows whether the ICE or the electric is in use. One time when they are both in use is if you put your foot down really hard. I must admit that seeing that display (as was the case of the ICE Mondeo which gave a similar readout of instant MPG) does encourage economic driving!
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Diasi

I'll stick with our 2007 Peugeot 307 which does 25 mpg around town & up to 38 mpg max on a journey.

I'd need to do some hefty mileage in a new car before the cost was offset by a higher mpg.

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Michael Rolls

Given my age and the idiocy of net zero, I do wonder if this might be my last car - makes me shudder to think
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Diasi

Quote from: Michael Rolls on April 02, 2023, 05:18:39 PMGiven my age and the idiocy of net zero, I do wonder if this might be my last car - makes me shudder to think
When I get into the Peugeot & drive it I can't believe it'll be 16 years old in September.

It's just as good as when we first bought it at 3 years old.

I dread the day if I can no longer drive.
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klondike

The 308 diesel I has has been trouble free. I gave it to my daughter when her car had a terminal decline - a reliable car returning excellent fuel economy and on paper worth nothing. I wasn't so enamoured of the car I bought to replace it at the time which is why I swapped it for the one I have now,

Meanwhile the 308 soldiers on still. It did have a minor hiccup at the last MOT which was its first ever fail. I just checked on a really good site that gives all sorts of details about vehicles and see it was the 2021 MOT not the most recent one and it was unsurprising wear and tear given its age...

Mileage:
101,333 miles
+ 12,751 miles travelled since last MOT.
Refusal Notices
Front inner brake pad(s) less than 1.5 mm thick (1.1.13 (a) (ii)) - Dangerous
Nearside front windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (3.4 (b) (ii)) - Major
Offside front wheel bearing rough when rotated (5.1.3 (b) (i)) - Major
Advisory Notices
Front brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Nearside rear child seat fitted not allowing full inspection of adult belt ()
Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge both front tyres (5.2.3 (e))

Site if anybody cares - https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/


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