Should We Be Worried?

[Raven]

Does Putin want WW3 or is the media playing silly buggers again?

[Ashy]

We should be worried about what it might cost to keep warm in winter.
My view is that if Ukraine wants a war they can damn well pay for it themselves.

[Raven]

I don't think Ukraine wants a war, that's down to Putin... Is it not.
I also think a lot of fireplaces will be getting reopened again, we have always used ours to burn logs.

[Alex]

I've always thought we have more to fear from the Chinese than the Russians.   Also didn't think that Putin would actually invade Ukraine, but he did and now it seems all of Europe has to pay for it.  Perhaps Zelenskyy should have given the bits of Ukraine that Russia wanted, and left it at that, it was after all Russian once wasn't it ?   

[Raven]

Yes Alex I believe it was. But, if he was given them back how long before he decided to want more, and attacked anyway when told no.

[Alex]

Putin wanting more could also be just another "Project Fear "

[Ashy]

Most people of any nationality don't want war, they don't want to be attacked by their own government either. The USA and Britain and others giving absolutely vast sums of borrowed money to the Ukrainian government are keeping the war going. My opinion remains, if the Ukraine wants to have a war they should be paying for it. They should accept peace on the best terms they can get, and every passing day makes good terms less and less likely.

[Michael Rolls]

well, if that attitude had prevailed in 1940 we would now be citizens of the Third Reich - how's your German?
Mike

September 04, 2022, 05:29:49 PM
An awful lot of people - even some on here who should be old enough to know better, seem to have forgotten just what we faced in WW2

This is the text of a speech given in 1941 by Reichminister R.W. Darre:-

As soon as we beat England we shall make an end of you Englishmen once and for all. Able-bodied men and women will be exported as slaves to the Continent. The old and the weak will be exterminated. All men remaining in Britain as slaves will be sterilised; a million or two of the young women of the Nordic type will be segregated in a number of stud farms where, with the assistance of picked German sires, during a period of 10 or 12 years, they will produce annually a series of Nordic infants to be brought up in every way as Germans. These infants will form the future population of Britain. They will be partially educated in Germany and only those who fully satisfy the Nazis' requirements will be allowed to return to Britain and take up permanent residence. The rest will be sterilised and sent to join slave gangs in Germany. Thus, in a generation or two, the British will disappear.

This wasn't some secret policy; it was a speech given in public and presumably intended to strike terror into British hearts. Fortunately it failed.

Mike

[Alex]

I wasn't aware that Putin had said he wants to take over all of Europe !

[Michael Rolls]

how much would you let him have? Don't forget just how much of Eastern Europe was dominated by the USSR. Any way - the main thrust of my post was aimed at Ashy's 'let Putin have what he wants' effectively contained in his post at 03:48:32
Mike

[Alex]

I think Putin should be allowed to take back the parts of Ukraine he wants.  It's none of our business.

[klondike]

Maybe we  should just give the dinghy boys Kent? It would make like a lot easier after all. Of course next they'd be wanting Sussex and Essex but what the hell.

[Jacqueline]

well, if that attitude had prevailed in 1940 we would now be citizens of the Third Reich - how's your German?
Mike

September 04, 2022, 05:29:49 PM
An awful lot of people - even some on here who should be old enough to know better, seem to have forgotten just what we faced in WW2

This is the text of a speech given in 1941 by Reichminister R.W. Darre:-

As soon as we beat England we shall make an end of you Englishmen once and for all. Able-bodied men and women will be exported as slaves to the Continent. The old and the weak will be exterminated. All men remaining in Britain as slaves will be sterilised; a million or two of the young women of the Nordic type will be segregated in a number of stud farms where, with the assistance of picked German sires, during a period of 10 or 12 years, they will produce annually a series of Nordic infants to be brought up in every way as Germans. These infants will form the future population of Britain. They will be partially educated in Germany and only those who fully satisfy the Nazis' requirements will be allowed to return to Britain and take up permanent residence. The rest will be sterilised and sent to join slave gangs in Germany. Thus, in a generation or two, the British will disappear.

This wasn't some secret policy; it was a speech given in public and presumably intended to strike terror into British hearts. Fortunately it failed.

Mike

"Thus, in a generation or two, the British will disappear"  we may have stopped it in the 1940's, but it's happening now and nobody is doing a damned thing to stop it, just look at London, and creeping through the country.  What the Nazi's failed to do our government is allowing to happen.   

[Scrumpy]

Foreigners are moving in to all countries.. The bigger the country, the longer it takes for it to become a problem..  We are a small island therefor making it easier and quicker to be taken over..
 Over many years we have had our worries concerning Mormons.. Jehovah.. knocking on doors and trying to persuade us to join their churches.. and follow their beliefs..
 Unfortunately we have a bigger problem..  Muslim...  Most have a hatred of our way of life and our beliefs... and some will kill .. because of their hatred for us..

Jehovah... Mormons.. have killed no-one in order to get their message over.. 
The way we avoided them was to hide behind the sofa when they called at our door..
 Now ..!!  No events.. gatherings.. meetings are completely free from terror striking..
And it is happening the world over...

[Alex]

Maybe we  should just give the dinghy boys Kent? It would make like a lot easier after all. Of course next they'd be wanting Sussex and Essex but what the hell.

No we shouldn't, Kent never belonged to the dinghy boys, unlike Ukraine which was part of Russia.