If you were PM …….

[muddy]

I agree with much of what you say Granny .
However I think that the Greens are no longer slightly eccentric tree huggers they have been infiltrated by the Islamist party and are seriously dangerous .
I think Zack Polenski is loony though , ditto Hannah Spencer , The Islamists will get rid of them as soon as they become no longer necessary .
Then it will become truly green in that is the colour of Islam .
Tommy Robinson may well have been guilty of thuggery but that was nearly two decades ago .
People change they get older , his last conviction ( for which he was jailed ) was for contempt of court. This was because he high lighted  the Pakistani grooming gangs - but the trial was ongoing hence he was held in contempt of court .
He was however right in what he said . Douglas Murray said almost  the same thing but the highly educated and erudite Murray is a lot more difficult for the PTB to rough house and jail . Although having said that the police had no trouble in threatening the equally educated and erudite Gabriel Faltar  for looking too Jewish ( he was wearing a scull cap ) and was walking the streets of London where he lives on a Saturday . Goodness knows mustn't annoy the foul mouthed pro Palestine mob.
I know several Iranian women all who have been out of their country for decades . They would like to return some still have family  there but they cannot .
These are educated professional woman and they are afraid and with good reason .
Most Iranians are greatly in favour of Trump they hoped he would help them free their country from the terrible medieval regime which govern it .
This is not what we want for our country .

[JBR]

I agree with much of what you say Granny .
However I think that the Greens are no longer slightly eccentric tree huggers they have been infiltrated by the Islamist party and are seriously dangerous .
I think Zack Polenski is loony though , ditto Hannah Spencer , The Islamists will get rid of them as soon as they become no longer necessary .
Then it will become truly green in that is the colour of Islam .
Tommy Robinson may well have been guilty of thuggery but that was nearly two decades ago .
People change they get older , his last conviction ( for which he was jailed ) was for contempt of court. This was because he high lighted  the Pakistani grooming gangs - but the trial was ongoing hence he was held in contempt of court .
He was however right in what he said . Douglas Murray said almost  the same thing but the highly educated and erudite Murray is a lot more difficult for the PTB to rough house and jail . Although having said that the police had no trouble in threatening the equally educated and erudite Gabriel Faltar  for looking too Jewish ( he was wearing a scull cap ) and was walking the streets of London where he lives on a Saturday . Goodness knows mustn't annoy the foul mouthed pro Palestine mob.
This is not what we want for our country .

I fully agree with you, Muddy, especially the sections I have emboldened.

As for Tommy Robinson being jailed for contempt of court, presumably for saying the 'wrong words', isn't it strange that far more serious crimes performed by 'some people' seem to avoid a jail sentence.  I have mentioned elsewhere that our judges, in some cases, seem to be quite varied in their sentencing.  They should perform their duties on a completely equal basis, but do appear sometimes to be personally biased!

[CHF]

Re Tommy Robinson, does a Leopard really change its spots?

I think not.

And I'm sorry, but I think Farage is a better-educated, slightly more charismatic,
better-spoken, Tommy Robinson.

I think the Greens may come to regret their choice of leader.

[muddy]

The Makerfield by election is heating up looks like  a two horse race .
If I were PM i would be a bit concerned .
Labour is my party
But Andy wants my job .

[CHF]

I hope Andy gets the job, he surely must be better than the present incumbent.

[muddy]

Why do you say that ?
The present incumbent was Labour and was democratically elected to his  seat by nearly 6000 votes .
Do you know anything detrimental about Josh Simons ?
He is a family man who lives in Wigan so is local to the area and AFAIK wanted  the best for the constituency .

https://www.joshsimons.org/aboutjosh

[CHF]

Not a thing, Muddy, but he chose to be a sacrificial lamb. I hope it is worth it
for him and the UK.

Muddy, I'm so sorry, when this twit said 'present incumbent.' I meant the PM.

[Ashy]

Point is even if Mr Burnham wins the by election, that in no way makes him party leader. he would be a back bench MP and expected to support the present incumbent who says he's not resigning. I hope the voters of Makerfield are not persuaded by what he might do if he were prime minister, because he probably won't be. He has to stand and be judged on the government's record.

[muddy]

Makerfield needs to vote for Robert Kenyon .
He is a man of the people who would in the normal way stand for Labour .
The ambitious Burnham wants to be PM 
He will decamp to Westminster while filling Wigan and surrounds with illegal immigrants 
If they want things to change they have to vote Reform however obnoxious they find Farage .

[CHF]

In your opinion, Muddy, not mine, sorry, but I think Reform are Cupboard Fascists.

[klondike]

Maybe you should look at Recover 

[GrannyMac]

Maybe you should look at Recover 

I don't want to see split off parties from Reform atm, they will hand the win to Labour. Andy Burnham is more left wing than Starmer, he'll make immigration easier, raise taxes, raise benefits, and the middle earners, and small businesses will suffer.