How do you feel about Hoodies

[Mups]

Hoodies.  How do you feel about them?

I understand how nice and warm and snug they must feel,  but I also feel they can look quite menacing too.
When you see a group of youg men gathered together,  or walking towards you, and they've all got these black hoods pulled round their faces,  it makes me feel wary.  Even worse, was when a while back we all had to wear those covid masks as well.  A thief's paradise, surely.

In most petrol stations there are notices up asking for biker crash helmets to be removed,  which I can understand.  BUT . .  what about hoody's?  Do you think they should be removed when paying at tills, too?  I do.
If anyone was up to no good, like shoplifting for example,  a hood hides their face nicely from the  CCTV cameras.

It is not cold, windy, drafty or wet,  in most shops,  so why keep hoods on?
If shops do get robbed or staff get threatened,  and the police can't see who it is,  I haven't got a lot of sympathy if they allow hoodies in,  yet not helmets.

What makes me laugh though is,  if these men are so cold they have to cover their heads,  why don't they try putting their flippin' trousers on instead!  Why wear shorts in January??  
I have never, ever seen a woman out in shorts in January,  have you?   

[Raven]

I love my Hoodies and wear them all the time, except in the worst of weather. I have light weight ones and heavy lined ones, and my sons black Adidas one that I pinched from him. I find them so comfortable with lovely deep pockets, just right for poo bags, keys, phone and hankies. All of which I carried at the same time.

[Mups]

Lovely picture with your boy, Raven.

Yes, I said I can understand how warm and snug they feel,  but my point is,  I think they should have to take the hood down when in shops,  same as bikers helmets have to come off.  It's a security thing.

Earlier this week there was a very dark black man,  with a black hood pulled round his face.   No way could he have been identified by a camera (or staff)  if the need came.

[Raven]

Oh yes I quite agree with that, The post Office here has a notice on the door about it. along with a couple of other shops.

[dextrous63]

I'm not sure on the law about refusing to serve customers wearing a hoodie or other face covering🤷🏻�♂️

IMHO, it's just plain rude for someone to cover themselves when speaking to others.  Even sunglasses should be removed, unless there is a medical reason requiring them to be worn.

[GrannyMac]

My glasses are reactorlites, they go dark when it's bright outside.  I can't then see clearly in some shops, so I have to take them off.  I have several hoodies, nice and warm, but I rarely put the hood up.

[Alex]

I don't like hoodies either and I wouldn't go out in the blanket hoodies that keep me warm indoors.   Black hoodies do look menacing, particularly when worn by black men !   Racist ? if you like.

[dextrous63]

I don't like hoodies either and I wouldn't go out in the blanket hoodies that keep me warm indoors.  Black hoodies do look menacing, particularly when worn by black men !  Racist ? if you like.

And stupid when they're cycling at night with no lights on.

[Alex]

And stupid when they're cycling at night with no lights on.

If they smile at you, you'll be ok though Dex

[dextrous63]

Indeed 😬😬😬😬

[Mups]

And stupid when they're cycling at night with no lights on.

I saw one recently doing exactly that.
It was not quite dark though,  but dusk.    He  had his black hoodie up, and cycled straight through a red light oblivious to the traffic coming.  No lights on his bike either.
Makes you wonder how some of these people get home at night.

[dextrous63]

As a cyclist it's  all too easy to forget that whereas one has complete vision and hearing of all around you, others (in cars) don't.  Drivers have a machine to operate, mirrors to check and glimpse in as many directions as possible within a fraction of a second.  Things which don't "scream" into view (such as hi viz stuff and lights) can be easily overlooked.  

On this and another point, it irritates the hell out of me that so many cyclists and pedestrians don't even bother to look to see if there are other road users!

[Raven]

I hate cyclists, too many near misses with the entitled group, especially in the Dark. My husband 40years ago took some luminous paint and brushed it on the tyres of the kids bikes, it made them easily seen in the gloom.
These days I think it should be made law that bikes are lit up, some are and it saves lives, also the riders should be wearing high vis vests or body warmers. We have to wear the vests when out on the Clydes and so should cyclists. 

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[Ashy]

I'm so frail these days that if I see a hooded warbler I try to make myself inconspicuous.