Covid - split from The boring thread.....

Started by Mups, November 27, 2024, 10:41:50 PM

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Mups

Quote from: klondike on November 27, 2024, 09:10:26 PMI was thinking I might be on my third session. Sore throat Sunday, Snotty Monday, Coughing Tuesday, test showed negative then today just a bit sniffly and the occasional cough. Probably a mild cold - no idea where I caught it.

Do you still have all the vaccines they keep pushing out?

Did you see my Honey/lemon/Ginger recipe I posted a week or so back?   Made into a hot drink,  it really is very good for sore throats.

klondike

I split this out so I can air my views on Covid. I've said little before as I think any decisions people make have to be their own and I don't want to try to influence them which I probably couldn't anyway - not least because my views will differ from those of many here.

Vaccines.
When I went for my first vaccination there was a fairly elderly nurse who was probably brought out of retirement who was helping out at the centre with people who had just been vaccinated. One thing she said to me after I'd had mine was along the lines of that's your first step to heaven (not suggesting I would keel over but the first step towards immunity from this horrible new plague. She clearly though the vaccine would stop people catching it. So did I. I imagine the vast majority did too.

Well it didn't although I don't recall just when that became clear.
Next story was it would stop people spreading Covid. People not taking the vaccine were treated as pariahs. Remember the tennis player? Remember the vaccination certificates need for admission to public venues? Remember all the public announcements?

Oh woe upon woe because they didn't do that either.

"Oh shit" think the politicians. We've spent billions on this crap what can we do? Ah! A brainwave The vaccine lessens the symptoms - nobody can disprove that and doubling down you can have the damned stuff every few months still despite one being withdrawn because it was killing some people (the one I and probably the majority had two of). The Pfizer one had falsified efficacy results from the testing and Moderna is pretty much the same thing but more expensive. There are still no Covid vaccines that have gone through full clinical trials and been officially approved - they all still have temporary certification.

By that time I was starting to get dubious but did have one booster but no more thank you.

So who was Covid killing? Well the original members here may remember that I was collecting and collating NHS and ONS statistics using scripts to produce spreadsheets and graphs because I posted some of them. It was absolutely clear that the vast majority being killed were the very elderly with some pre-existing condition which were later broken down and turned out to be mostly respiratory problems and the immunosuppressed. Many of the younger ones suffered what is now learning difficulties and the subconscious brain is what controls  the immune system through umpteen complex chemical means.  Virtually nobody in reasonable health less than maybe 70 was dying - pretty much the same as that other respiratory virus influenza which can still kill thousands every winter despite having a pretty effective virus and one I do have stuck in my arm annually.

I think I've gone on long enough but I will say that our economic woes now stem in the main from the disastrous and totally unnecessary lockdowns. There was an alternative and it was ignored. US locked down or not state by state. There is insufficient variance for anybody to look at the covid stats and pick out those that did and those that didn't.

Raven

Both my daughter and her husband have Covid at the moment, :worried:  mild but hoping it doesn't get any worse.

GrannyMac

No more for us either.  I've had some horrible side effects, and Covid at least once.  I've had the flu jab and the RSV vaccine, no problems. 
Its not how old you are, but how you are old. 💖

klondike

Quote from: Raven on November 28, 2024, 11:20:52 AMmy daughter and her husband
Based on probable age they aren't likely to get really ill unless they have some other issues.

The cough that made me think my current bug might be isn't persistent which my previous two covid infections produced, The test I got a negative from is expired but I have use old tests before that showed positive and confirmed with new tests.

I had a letter saying I'd be playing poo sticks again (bowel cancer test) I'll do the test but a few weeks after my last one a colonoscopy showed two polyps which should have produced a positive. I'm hoping the test will be negative as the enema stuff you have to drink before a colonoscopy is absolutely vile and made me feel quite ill.

Mups

Klondike,  after your post about vaccines,  I wondered if you have seen this?

Some of you might have seen it before,  but I'll post it again for those who haven't.
It is an undertaker from Milton Keyes saying about what they find in some vaccinated bodies.




klondike

I'm guessing that's the white stringy stuff in the blood. I don't really know what to make of it. There are plenty of accepted problems with the vaccines to stop me having any more anyway. That's the ones the government are paying out money out in compensation for.

Mups

Quote from: klondike on November 28, 2024, 12:37:08 PMI'm guessing that's the white stringy stuff in the blood. I don't really know what to make of it. There are plenty of accepted problems with the vaccines to stop me having any more anyway. That's the ones the government are paying out money out in compensation for.


That's how I feel too.   I daren't have any more.

I had the dreaded Aztra Zeneker unfortunately,  and within 24 hrs I was carted off in an ambulance. 
This carried on and on over the following months,  another 16 times to be precise!