Reduce crime and increase prison space

[JBR]

Stop knocking our police.

An elderly lady phoned the police because young vandals kept damaging their garden gate.

The police arrived quite quickly & gave the woman a verbal warning for using threatening behaviour as she'd told one of the young vandals she ring his neck if she caught him.

To date nothing has been done about the young vandals.

I often wonder whose side our police are on these days.

[Scrumpy]

Yobs rule.. They can walk into any shop .. take what they want.. and walk out again.. No-one dares to stop them.. Mustn't lay hands on them..
Staff fear for their own safety..
They don't even need a fast getaway motor.. Those days have long gone..
This applies to private property also..

[dextrous63]

Anyone who is an asylum seeker who is found guilty of a crime should automatically be returned to their country of origin.  They will have come here for protection, and it's a pretty poor show if they then decide to bite the hand that feeds them.

[dextrous63]

By coincidence, I just came across this in a book I'm reading.  It's referring to a pastoral deputy head of a school, but can easily be adapted for this thread..

"Many was the wayward urchin with the wedge haircut who was sent to his office for a damned good letting off."

[JBR]

Yobs rule.. They can walk into any shop .. take what they want.. and walk out again.. No-one dares to stop them.. Mustn't lay hands on them..
Staff fear for their own safety..
They don't even need a fast getaway motor.. Those days have long gone..
This applies to private property also..

As many used to joke about, Lawless Britain.

I think this, like almost everything else, comes down ultimately to the government.

They have decided not to build more prisons; they have decided not to push for more punishing consequences for law-breaking; they (or their predecessors) have decided to hand over control of London to it new mayor; they have continued to pass control to other bodies: the Civil Service, the Lords, etc.

Assuming that Mr Flip-Flop will take over next month, and hand 16 year-olds the vote (to continue their term in office for longer), such things will continue as those young people are largely in favour of freedom to break the law, protesting and holding up normal progress anywhere, etc.

[klondike]

should automatically be returned to their country of origin.

The law produces two obstacles to that.
First proving their country of origin.
Two they can't be sent anywhere that would be dangerous for them.
For instance most of the third world muslim countries throw homosexuals off tall buildings or any that have renounced Islam both of which are easly enough for the scallywags to claim. If they get here our laws are so biased in their favour that they can't be sent back and sadly we can't throw them from high building ourselves. Well not until we have been overerrun to the point where Sharia law prevails and we can go it for a bit of stoning, chucking from high building, cutting bits off, etc. etc.

[dextrous63]

If they are unwilling to provide details of their country of origin then either..

1/.  They have no right to request asylum, or
2/.  We can choose our best guess of an unpleasant country to drop them off in.

As for what happens when they get there, well they should have thought of that before committing the crime.  As ye sow,...

[klondike]

As I said our law acts in their favour and neither of those options are possible. About the only one that is, it would seem, is for them to stay here and sponge or melt away into the black economy doing such tasks as washing our cars or growing plants in empty properties. Sadly the latter doesn't recuce our CO₂ emmisions as the scallywags will be using 24x7 lighting powered by bypassed electricity meters and the stuff just gets burned in the end anyway.

[dextrous63]

Lex asina est

[klondike]

Legislatores inutiles sunt

[JBR]

I agree.  The law is an ass, certainly in this country.
Presumably, the people who encourage that have something to gain from it.