surviving food banks ,

Started by alfred, June 10, 2022, 08:06:24 AM

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alfred

the original idea of food banks was to help the really needy people with very little money the idea was, and is good, however i recently read of families struggling to feed their families now going to the food banks to supplement their shopping as a way of surviving ,

in this 21 century it seems crazy that people  are subjected to  having to use food banks simply as the government isn't really solving the problem which they prefer it to simply go away and with the possibility of the world getting short of food due to many factors, the eucraine war , flooding,, forest fires, freak weather , storms and everything else which the world seems to be going through and all going on around the  entire world  so is it any wonder that food prices much like fuel prices will go on increasing with little or no end in sight for some time to come,

Q; what are your points of view regarding food banks and people simply trying to feed families , is the government doing enough ???

klondike

Things are going to be much much worse very soon unless HMG start reducing the cost of fuel. The 5% vat should go along with the green levy.

I assume most foodbank users don't have cars. Just as well with fuels for them approaching and in some places exceeding £2 a gallon we are looking at 40p a mile just for fuel so just the trip to the supermarket and back will be £5 or more for many. Lots of scope to remove taxation on that too.

Michael Rolls

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wish it was £2 a gallon - I think you mean £2 a litre which is £9.20 a gallon - and to think that when I started motoring it under 4/- a gallon [1170]  [1170]
Mike

June 10, 2022, 09:42:26 AM
One plus of my hybrid - it is currently returning 49.7 mpg. Petrol locally is £1.81 a litre, so petrol costs me 16.6p per mile, but even that makes my eyes water!
Mike
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klondike

Yep. I probably got it wrong as it is so unbelievable. I think I lay in bed, worked it out in my head and got it all entirely wrong.

£2 a litre is, as you say ~ £9 a gallon and at 40mpg that is 22.5p per mile. 

Jacqueline

On a TV programme yesterday they were doing a breakdown of the price of a litre of fuel.  I wish I could remember the whole breakdown, but  the government were getting 47% in fuel duty and VAT, the retailer 2%.  So who is the rip off merchant? and we blame the retailer. 

Raven

While I agree with what your saying Jacqueline, we have a garage up here who are profiteering left right and centre. They are always the first to raise their prices and don't bring them down. :angry: They are the dearest in the area.
When the 5p reduction came in a few weeks back they raised their prices twice in one week then reduced by 5p to what it had been before.....Bloody Cheats. The locals are mostly avoiding them but the tourists still go there.
They need to be Named, Shamed, and investigated.

klondike

May not be so many in your parts but there are lots of supermarket filling stations around here a few pence a litre cheaper than the brand names. Even a couple of coppers a litre is a pound or more a fill. Maybe a small percentage but   would you walk past a pound coin
 in the gutter?

Raven

Quote from: klondike on June 10, 2022, 11:25:15 AMMay not be so many in your parts but there are lots of supermarket filling stations around here a few pence a litre cheaper than the brand names. Even a couple of coppers a litre is a pound or more a fill. Maybe a small percentage but   would you walk past a pound coin
 in the gutter?

The nearest supermarket Garage up here is over in Wick 25 miles each way. All the rest are either Gleaner or private owned. I do use the Wick one when I'm over there but it's a waste of time and fuel otherwise.

klondike

One other tip if you do travel anywhere reasonably often is to check all the prices. A town only 15 miles from here is routinely 2p or 3p cheaper. Not worth travelling but worth remembering if you are going there.

Not perfect but worth checking when out and about
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=apposing.petrolprices

Raven

Very true klondike and I already do that :check: I know exactly where to go for diesel.

Michael Rolls

drove through Kirriemuir this morning - I filled locally yesterday, as I said 181.9 a litre - Kirriemuir was 195.9!
Looking at the 3/- a gallon I reckoned I paid in 1968 and applying inflation - today's price should be £1.81 a gallon!
Mike
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Cassandra

Quote from: klondike on June 10, 2022, 09:06:27 AMThings are going to be much much worse very soon unless HMG start reducing the cost of fuel. The 5% vat should go along with the green levy.

I assume most foodbank users don't have cars. Just as well with fuels for them approaching and in some places exceeding £2 a gallon we are looking at 40p a mile just for fuel so just the trip to the supermarket and back will be £5 or more for many. Lots of scope to remove taxation on that too.

Apparently its been reported here that the Prime Minister is stubbornly refusing to even temporarily remove 'Green' taxes and VAT on home heat. This while workers can't afford road fuel to travel to work (allegedly)?

Also reports the great majority of Brits (80%) want to scrap his nutty 'Nett-Zero' caper.

More good reasons why he must go and quickly...
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Jacqueline

I am sure that our government and the greenies are happy that we can't afford to use our cars.  One bloke on TV was saying we should all get out of our cars and use public transport, well I am sure that he must live in London as it is not an option round here, would be housebound evenings and Sundays as no buses. 

Michael Rolls

Quote from: Cassandra on June 10, 2022, 04:08:06 PMApparently its been reported here that the Prime Minister is stubbornly refusing to even temporarily remove 'Green' taxes and VAT on home heat. This while workers can't afford road fuel to travel to work (allegedly)?

Also reports the great majority of Brits (80%) want to scrap his nutty 'Nett-Zero' caper.

More good reasons why he must go and quickly...
I wonder who on earth that 20% can be - they are also the nutty ones. Much more of this and the Tories are likely to sink without trace at the next election - which leads to a really worrying scenario
Mike
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klondike

>  which leads to a really worrying scenario

To be brutally honest I'm not certain that it is any more worrying than the one we face currently.