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1953 17 years old junior clerk £135 p.a. and my 6 O levels put m three points up the scale!

apparently we had thunder and lighting yesterday afternoon but I was having a doze and missed it!

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Quote from: GrannyMac on June 03, 2026, 06:43:26 AMthis afternoon might be wet though.

Guaranteed here 

That said it looks bright at the moment despite the forecast.

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Quote from: GrannyMac on June 03, 2026, 06:41:54 AMI think parents should be made to take some responsibility when their child commits a crime. Might make some of the actually parent.

I agree
The thing is parenting is hard yakker
Parents don't like being disliked by their child which sometimes happens when they have to lay down the law .
But you are not you child's best buddy you are it's parent..
Time is another thing
Parents both work and the child is rushed from from pilar to post is left in play groups etc
A child really needs constant focused attention especially in its early years.
From its parents .
When mothers stayed at home this was usually a given.
Now so many mothers prefer their smart phones rather than giving their children attention .

Penaltiies for parents is not a bad idea. Today's parenting doesn't seem to go much further than making sure to switch on the TV or provide a mobile screen of some sort
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Is it all wrong?
IMO yes. I think religions cause more problems than they solve.

Quote from: klondike on June 03, 2026, 06:06:42 AMAs religions are used as a means of population control and have been since the dawn of time it isn't surprising that it is used to indoctrinate children.

The moral code instilled by some is admirable even if the methods are very questionable.

Shame about what others indoctrinate their followers with.

Overall I still think the world would be a better place without them. I'd be stuck for names for my wifi and servers as they all get  named for places in Norse mythology but I'd doubtless think of alternatives or even just make stuff up - after all that's what shamans have always done.

Yes I agree with the indoctrination/ control  etc 
But is it all wrong ? 
There has to be some sort of control on the population else there will be anarchy .
And we are increasingly seeing anarchy / civil unrest .
There has to be some sort of moral code in order that people are able to live peaceably with each other.
The increase in crim because  there is no or little consequence shows this ( ie shop lifting ) 
Inevitably there will be a backlash at some point .
We see it now with what is now called the far right .
Not just here but all over the world .
People are sick of lawlessness .

We've not had as much rain as was forecast, this afternoon might be wet though.  The garden needs it.

Exercise class in the pool later, then coffee with the ladies.