Started by Alex, August 02, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: Ashy on August 02, 2022, 10:43:44 PMPerhaps we should have a referendum on whether to hold a referendum. When I saw the scale of the SNP's victory I couldn't really see how Westminster could deny them a referendum on independence, but they did agree at the time that it was once and for a generation.Now we have the precedent of the Donbass declaring themselves independent.
Quote from: Cassandra on August 02, 2022, 03:46:05 PMI have no idea. If Scotland became independent, the Tories would gain an extra majority of 59 seats overnight at Westminster, almost certainly committing both Starmer and Labour to the dust bin of History. Same time clearing England of a huge deficit and open up a bargaining tool with Sturgeon's beloved EU to re-negotiate the N.I. border with.In likelihood the EU won't want another hungry mouth to underwrite and would the SNP press ahead for a Nationwide decision; with no Barnett formula and higher recovery costs on ever deeper North Sea Oil seams as a medley? Conversely for them the SNP would have a massive majority in the new administration and Sturgeon could choose to ignore the ideological Green party. At least both sides could say post-split, it was Scotland's call to vote and if it came to it, their choice to secede?I think Truss is intelligently appealing to an increasing swell of English people who now want separation for the reasons above. After all sadly but clearly there is now a mutually expanding distrust between the Nation peoples and maybe surgery is the only way forward for both viewpoints to co-exist in a batter way in the future? Why not let Scotland have a referendum whenever they choose - every other month if so desired, let them be proactive about this - England can't lose? Perhaps a ballot in England (in which all the Scot ex pats could vote) as to Scottish separation would be a good idea? At least to gage how the other half feel and give them a chance to respond to Sturgeon's disappointing, but understandably strategic insults every few weeks, which are increasing tiresome to endure.
Quote from: Ashy on August 02, 2022, 10:38:58 PMI can see the only way to settle this is to fight.
Quote from: Raven on August 02, 2022, 11:29:20 PMthey were elected on a 2nd ref promise
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