I think they are getting madder every day. :yell: Not that I want that Truss Woman in No10, but :wtf:
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Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a deep pool of talent in parliament?
We haven't even got a shallow puddle of talent. More like a damp stain on the floor, and they are all owned by the WEF.
I think a lot of Tories are realising that they've shot themselves in the foot by getting rid of Boris. They took out a leader who managed to give the buggers their majority, but that didn't matter because they just wanted him out. Pity nobody had the brains to think about what happened next :wtf:
Ordinary members of the conservative party cannot remove the party leader, so it wasn't their decision.
If only that were true.. I'd be happy... But I doubt it is.
The party leader can only be removed by members of parliament and/or resignation.
If, which was proposed by members, the outgoing PM was allowed to be on the ballot paper, Boris would still be PM by a country mile.
As it is, ordinary party members can't stop these disastrous shenanigans by the MPs.
Well it has all happened during the silly season. Nothing important happening was there?
The Tories will lose the next election by a majority, similar to Blair's victory in '97 and by dumping Boris they're saving a few seats at least. Because in reality it's already too late. Try selling his Green Rubbish next time round, as an activist on the door steps with whats coming down the line - no thank you! His lies, ruinous financial catastrophies like lockdown and ill judged partnerships; from his cretinous wife, to Dominic Cummings axiomatically demonstrate this point alone. A huge, basic weakness that not even his infantile blatherings could have overcome. Good riddance idiot, go forward and multiply - something your undeniably a success at and don't forget your bike and kettle!
Quote from: Cassandra on September 04, 2022, 10:53:35 PMThe Tories will lose the next election by a majority, similar to Blair's victory in '97 and by dumping Boris they're saving a few seats at least. Because in reality it's already too late. Try selling his Green Rubbish next time round, as an activist on the door steps with whats coming down the line - no thank you! His lies, ruinous financial catastrophies like lockdown and ill judged partnerships; from his cretinous wife, to Dominic Cummings axiomatically demonstrate this point alone. A huge, basic weakness that not even his infantile blatherings could have overcome. Good riddance idiot, go forward and multiply - something your undeniably a success at and don't forget your bike and kettle!
Your not a fan then Cass. [1160]
It's hard to predict the outcome of the 2024 General Election but I do think that the Tories will struggle with Truss as she has no charisma whatsoever.
It was Boris's 'Jack the Lad' charisma, more than his Brexit policy, that won us the Red Wall seats.
Meanwhile, Labour could well be scuppered by Momentum activists.
I agree.. Boris was likable and attracted voters..
They are like pop stars.. If they look good and can sing a bit.. they are winners..
Unless M Truss lets us down badly her party may well win the next election. Look at John Major for example for a complete lack of charisma, direction, or anything, but he won the 1992. And hard as it may seem the principle opposition party has found a leader with even less charisma.
:nooo:
Quote from: Diasi on September 05, 2022, 08:51:28 AMIt's hard to predict the outcome of the 2024 General Election but I do think that the Tories will struggle with Truss as she has no charisma whatsoever.
and Starmer does?
Quote from: Diasi on September 05, 2022, 08:51:28 AMMeanwhile, Labour could well be scuppered by Momentum activists.
I've already said that IMO they will stay their hand until after the election is won by Labour. Which I've also said it will be IMO. Let's hope that Ashy is closer to the mark than I am. Middle ground would be a coalition with the SNP with another Scottish independence referendum as the price which I've also suggested as a possible before.
I think the incumbents inbox has just too many impossible to solve in the time issues for anything but a labour win though. People can't remember the last full on Labour government as most were either unborn or children and I reckon that is what we will be getting.
By the way send the letters today or tomorrow. Welcome the new lass.
Today maybe a good move. They'll have time to bin it before the rest turn up. I'll bung it in the postbox today.
Quote from: Raven on September 04, 2022, 11:23:58 PMYour not a fan then Cass. [1160]
No, I detest every last vestige of him. He magnificently reflects Professor Peter's principal that
everyone is promoted to their eventual level of incompetence! But his policies on Green rubbish and his insistence on hiding his Lockdown disaster rubbish by spangling on about the Ukraine is to me wanton politicking for sake of his vast ego at the country's expense. A complete Idiot.
Quote from: klondike on September 05, 2022, 09:29:13 AMI think the incumbents inbox has just too many impossible to solve in the time issues for anything but a labour win though. People can't remember the last full on Labour government as most were either unborn or children and I reckon that is what we will be getting.
Unfortunately I have to agree that I think it's a strong possibility too, but also I hope there are still enough of us alive that do remember the last full-on Labour Government to prevent another one getting elected.
I wonder if the situation will be so dire that the Reform Party may get a look in. I fear not, of course, as despite many of their policies being dear to my heart I have to wonder if they would have heavy enough boots to kick the sodding mandarins into line. A lack of any track trecord almost certainly means that the best they can hope for is one or two retained deposits.
Quote from: klondike on September 05, 2022, 06:09:50 PMI wonder if the situation will be so dire that the Reform Party may get a look in. I fear not, of course, as despite many of their policies being dear to my heart I have to wonder if they would have heavy enough boots to kick the sodding mandarins into line. A lack of any track trecord almost certainly means that the best they can hope for is one or two retained deposits.
All parties have to start somewhere, the country has to be willing/desperate to give them a go..The SNP were an also ran for a very long time, but once they did get in they stayed there. So don't give up there could be another party waiting in the wings.
Quote from: Cassandra on September 05, 2022, 03:58:25 PMNo, I detest every last vestige of him. He magnificently reflects Professor Peter's principal that everyone is promoted to their eventual level of incompetence! But his policies on Green rubbish and his insistence on hiding his Lockdown disaster rubbish by spangling on about the Ukraine is to me wanton politicking for sake of his vast ego at the country's expense. A complete Idiot.
I agree. Admittedly, Boris did honour the Brexit vote... sort of. He simply agreed to Treason May's BRINO, which is why we are where we are now.
He has also been pushing his wife's green agenda, which only the protesters fully agree with, and was in charge when this disgraceful energy supply problem began. No nuclear power expansion, no North Sea oil and gas resumption and no fracking.
The best he could come up with is his beloved HS2 waste of money.
I am pleased and relieved that he has gone.
As for the future, I shall vote for Reform UK as I have said all along. Some may say I'm wasting my vote, but I should probably waste it by voting for Conservatives and certainly by voting for Labour.
We shall just have to see what Truss does about this country now. She has two years.
No. What will be will be.
Apparently Liz Truss may not have any white men in her top job cabinet, so the rumour says all immigrants and women. Interesting to see what tomorrow brings, even the Labour party has white men.
I don't care as long as they're competent. Of the four the article refers to, all were born here. James Cleverly has a white father - if that matters, so he's 50% white. Liz Truss is of course white, just not a man. Braverman and Kwarteng are the other two who are mentioned in the headline I saw.
We are in the middle of a fuel crisis, our economy is going down the pan, not the best time for a whole new bunch of people to take over. The colour of their skin isn't what'll make them succeed or fail. Lets face it, you can't get much whiter than Boris.
Quote from: GrannyMac on September 06, 2022, 07:37:04 AMI don't care as long as they're competent. Of the four the article refers to, all were born here. James Cleverly has a white father - if that matters, so he's 50% white. Liz Truss is of course white, just not a man. Braverman and Kwarteng are the other two who are mentioned in the headline I saw.
I care to the extent that when I turn on the news I don't want to wonder which country's Parliament I'm watching.
But I do acknowledge that it's not PC to want Britain to look British.
I don't care what colour skin a person has.. It is more important , at this time, that they do a good job..
If the white man can't manage it, and it is proven that they can not, let others try..
Quote from: GrannyMac on September 06, 2022, 07:37:04 AMI don't care as long as they're competent. Of the four the article refers to, all were born here. James Cleverly has a white father - if that matters, so he's 50% white. Liz Truss is of course white, just not a man. Braverman and Kwarteng are the other two who are mentioned in the headline I saw.
We are in the middle of a fuel crisis, our economy is going down the pan, not the best time for a whole new bunch of people to take over. The colour of their skin isn't what'll make them succeed or fail. Lets face it, you can't get much whiter than Boris.
I agree. I have said before that the colour of their skin is not important: my excellent optician and the chap who did my vitrectomy are both brown-coloured and I am very happy and impressed with both.
The ones who would do us harm (for their own benefit) are the illegal immigrants and the evil men of all colours who break the law, not forgetting of course the (white) marxists in the Labour party like Compo Corbyn and their union leaders who hold the country to ransom.
The only worry I have is with a non white person appointed as Home Secretary. They may have been born here, but possibly have ties back in "the old country" or perhaps a place in their heart for said country.
This could possibly hinder any decision they need to make regarding immigration. :hmm: :hmm: Or am I seeing a problem where one doesn't exist ?
Quote from: Alex on September 06, 2022, 01:21:31 PMThe only worry I have is with a non white person appointed as Home Secretary. They may have been born here, but possibly have ties back in "the old country" or perhaps a place in their heart for said country.
This could possibly hinder any decision they need to make regarding immigration. :hmm: :hmm: Or am I seeing a problem where one doesn't exist ?
Well
no-one yet - black or white - seems to have done anything constructive about illegal immigration!
Sad as it may be for some people, a more hard nosed approach is urgently required.
Quote from: Ashy on September 06, 2022, 02:24:47 PMSad as it may be for some people, a more hard nosed approach is urgently required.
I don't know whether Truss has a hard nose, but I'm pretty sure that Reform would deal with the matter properly, regardless of all the lefties and lawyers.
Sadly, my vote will be no more than a cry in the wilderness and the chances of Reform reforming this country are slim.
Still, ultimately that is down to the electorate.
Suella Braverman is in favour of leaving the ECHR, lets hope if she is Home Secretary, its soon. Not many illegals from India, in fact many British Indians have done well here, they put a lot of emphasis on their children getting a good education and becoming doctor, dentists, lawyers etc. I can't imagine she'll be keen on more arriving from Albania etc.
Quote from: GrannyMac on September 06, 2022, 03:42:03 PMSuella Braverman is in favour of leaving the ECHR, lets hope if she is Home Secretary, its soon. Not many illegals from India, in fact many British Indians have done well here, they put a lot of emphasis on their children getting a good education and becoming doctor, dentists, lawyers etc. I can't imagine she'll be keen on more arriving from Albania etc.
I looked her up (and down) as I know very little of her. However, I was very impressed by this:
'In an interview with
The Times, Braverman said that schools do not have to accommodate requests from students who wish to change how others recognise their gender, including the use of the pronouns, uniforms, lavatories and changing facilities of their identified gender if it differs from their sex. She argues that, legally, under-18s are entitled to be treated only by the gender corresponding to their sex and that the "unquestioning approach" adopted by some teachers and schools is the reason different parts of the country have very different rates of children presenting as transgender.'
She'd get my vote!
Good for her, someone who's not afraid to say it like it is. No faffing around. :yay:
Here's hoping then :upvote:
1858:Therese Coffey appointed Health Secretary & Deputy PM
Minister of health, seriously?
She could be over her head on this one, at least she'll have to give up the cigars. :grin:
Quote from: Ashy on September 06, 2022, 07:43:47 PM1858:Therese Coffey appointed Health Secretary & Deputy PM
Minister of health, seriously?
Speaking as a Tory Party member, I find Coffey, from what I've seen of her TV interviews, to be an odious woman.
Quote from: Diasi on September 06, 2022, 10:47:51 PMSpeaking as a Tory Party member, I find Coffey, from what I've seen of her TV interviews, to be an odious woman.
Me too and she was the 'instrument' that seemed delighted in informing UK Pensioners of their dirty little Indian rope trick on abandoning the 'Triple Lock', on last years Pension review, or the first time it was really needed since it's creation.
Reminds me so aptly of the 'Spitting Image' portrayal of Ken Baker -
The Snail, she probably leaves a slime trail too!
Yet another horrible, creepy old '
Remainer'!
Anyone for Coffey.jpg
Quote from: GrannyMac on September 06, 2022, 03:42:03 PMSuella Braverman is in favour of leaving the ECHR, lets hope if she is Home Secretary, its soon. Not many illegals from India, in fact many British Indians have done well here, they put a lot of emphasis on their children getting a good education and becoming doctor, dentists, lawyers etc. I can't imagine she'll be keen on more arriving from Albania etc.
Another brave soul who will be wasted within a mess of Liberals extremist civil servants at the 'Home Office' ideologically intent on bringing her down with their limpid, inertia filled work from home, Socialist woke profiles.
Perhaps set up deliberately to fail so that a
goodie goodie, immigrant loving, no borders for us EU facing dumpbag can replace her!
Apparently Badenoch has made an impressive start by turning up to her first Cabinet meeting 20 minutes after it had started.
Once she's become acquainted with 'when the small hand points to & the big hand points to' etc, she should be ok.
Quote from: Ashy on September 06, 2022, 07:43:47 PM1858:Therese Coffey appointed Health Secretary & Deputy PM
Minister of health, seriously?
She will introduce food rationing.. and call it healthy living.. Putting us all on diets..
While she, being in cabinet, can stuff herself silly..
Oh no! We already had one cakegate...
To quite honest the minister of health deals with sickness. None of them use the NHS, except as private patients, so it is what it is.