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Title: Husting in Manchester
Post by: hugh on August 20, 2022, 10:09:52 AM
I watched the husting on the GBNews channel last night. The people didn't get chance to ask Rishi many questions, because after answering each question he spent more time attacking Liz, wasting time. Liz answered all question and did not mention him once, and answer far more questions. Just hope she his able to carry out her plans.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Alex on August 20, 2022, 10:27:00 AM
I watched it on catch up, but I missed Sunak's section.  I thought Alastair Stewart was very good and Liz seems to have a sense of humour too !
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Raven on August 20, 2022, 01:42:16 PM
I don't want either of them but I agree with this article, especially after watching and listening to the Truss Woman. She will not help those who need it, only the already well off.

BBC News - Michael Gove backs Rishi Sunak in Tory leadership bid
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62613501
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: hugh on August 20, 2022, 05:26:21 PM
Gove getting out before being removed Raven. Rishi trying to take credit for every thing Boris has done. Liz going to make the Tories a low tax party which it stands for. With a clear out of the front bench with a very fresh look, we must wait and see how well they do. Just hope they surprise you Raven. Rishi job will I expect be taken by Kwasi Kwarteng. 

Labour party have lost 100,000 members and going broke.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: 1955vintage on August 20, 2022, 05:42:35 PM
A backing from Gove is like a football chairman's vote of confidence.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Raven on August 20, 2022, 07:13:55 PM
As you say Hugh, it's a game of wait and see.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Alex on August 20, 2022, 07:30:36 PM
Quote from: Raven on August 20, 2022, 07:13:55 PMAs you say Hugh, it's a game of wait and see.

Raven you might try reading other reports on politics and not always the BBC, just a thought..... :wink:
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Diasi on August 20, 2022, 07:58:56 PM
I don't bother watching the hustings as Liz Truss is already our next PM as she's already got about 70% of the votes to date..

I estimate that around 90% of Tory members have already voted.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Raven on August 20, 2022, 08:04:07 PM
Quote from: Alex on August 20, 2022, 07:30:36 PMRaven you might try reading other reports on politics and not always the BBC, just a thought..... :wink:

What ones do you suggest?
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: hugh on August 20, 2022, 08:06:13 PM
Rishi and his mates have put the country in a right old mess, and its going to take a strong lady to get us out of it. Rishi I expect, the only one which will get a good position with Liz, and the only job which will stop him making trouble will be Health secretary.

August 20, 2022, 08:12:06 PM
None Raven, you can judge her on results, has she starts work has prime minister in a few weeks. 
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Alex on August 20, 2022, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: Raven on August 20, 2022, 08:04:07 PMWhat ones do you suggest?

The BBC is anti Tory, which is maybe why you watch it !  :grin:  but it's also become anti British, they broadcast what they think you should hear
GB News for me, Alistair Stewart was really good presenting the husting - (funny word husting  :grin: ) Talk Radio/TV you can always switch off Piers Morgan :grin:  I also watch Al Jazeera, it's Quatari state owned so you can imagine quite biased,  but at least you get to see both sides.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Raven on August 20, 2022, 09:00:05 PM
I only read the BBC News online, I watch the STV News as it is about Scotland and gives time to the local places your watching from.

That's probably why I'm not in the know very much about Politics.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Alex on August 20, 2022, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: Raven on August 20, 2022, 09:00:05 PMI only read the BBC News online, I watch the STV News as it is about Scotland and gives time to the local places your watching from.

That's probably why I'm not in the know very much about Politics.

A local on line paper for an alternative view maybe ? there must be one for your area. If I want local news I read Chester Standard, Wirral Globe, Liverpool Echo, all have on line publications. Sometimes it's just nice to read a different approach.

https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: hugh on August 21, 2022, 07:43:24 AM
To be honest Raven not seen any reports supporting Liz Truss cutting taxes at this time. Ken Clarke being the latest not to back tax cutting. Liz Truss becoming Prime Minister because far more popular one's were some how removed. Most members do not trust Rishi so had no choice but to vote for Liz. 
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Raven on August 21, 2022, 09:24:32 AM
Quote from: Alex on August 20, 2022, 09:40:56 PMA local on line paper for an alternative view maybe ? there must be one for your area. If I want local news I read Chester Standard, Wirral Globe, Liverpool Echo, all have on line publications. Sometimes it's just nice to read a different approach.

https://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/news/

I often read "JOG" as it's the local paper but it's very countryfied and all about Caithness, Farming, Thurso and the surrounding villages. Not political at all. :smiley:

August 21, 2022, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: hugh on August 21, 2022, 07:43:24 AMTo be honest Raven not seen any reports supporting Liz Truss cutting taxes at this time. Ken Clarke being the latest not to back tax cutting. Liz Truss becoming Prime Minister because far more popular one's were some how removed. Most members do not trust Rishi so had no choice but to vote for Liz.

Why do they not trust him? I can only think of two reasons.
1..He resigned from his job.
2..The Tax affair with his wife.

I don't trust either of them but that's for a different reason, as I'm sure you know. :smiley:
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: hugh on August 21, 2022, 11:10:54 AM
Raven, Liz Truss at the moment we just do not know if we should trust or other wise. Rishi most members feel he was the one who brought down Boris. True or not they believe he was one that dished out party gate photographs and was plotting to become Prime Minister. He had a very good video already made before he resigned. 
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Raven on August 21, 2022, 11:16:00 AM
Thanks Hugh, I thought it was something along those lines.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: JBR on August 21, 2022, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: hugh on August 20, 2022, 10:09:52 AMI watched the husting on the GBNews channel last night. The people didn't get chance to ask Rishi many questions, because after answering each question he spent more time attacking Liz, wasting time. Liz answered all question and did not mention him once, and answer far more questions. Just hope she his able to carry out her plans.
I haven't watched it, but from what you say that confirms my own choice of Truss as the best of a bad lot.
I live in hope that she'll be another Thatcher!

August 21, 2022, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Alex on August 20, 2022, 08:14:28 PMThe BBC is anti Tory, which is maybe why you watch it !  :grin:  but it's also become anti British, they broadcast what they think you should hear
GB News for me, Alistair Stewart was really good presenting the husting
I agree completely.
I watch only GBNews now and certainly refuse to pay good money to watch BBC in the hope that they will eventually disappear!
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: klondike on August 21, 2022, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: JBR on August 21, 2022, 03:35:09 PMI live in hope that she'll be another Thatcher!
IIRC that sentiment was expressed by some when one T. May became PM. She talked the talk initially and it was only later that the forked tongue was revealed.

(https://gallery.digitalham.co.uk/images/may.gif)
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: JBR on August 21, 2022, 04:00:32 PM
Quote from: klondike on August 21, 2022, 03:47:23 PMIIRC that sentiment was expressed by some when one T. May became PM. She talked the talk initially and it was only later that the forked tongue was revealed.

(https://gallery.digitalham.co.uk/images/may.gif)

Very appropriate picture!
Yes, I never trusted May from the first day I saw her (though at that time she didn't appear to be a lizard).
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 21, 2022, 05:01:37 PM
like it!
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: hugh on August 21, 2022, 05:58:39 PM
She was certainly a complete waste of time and the worst Tory PM we have ever had. Liz will be has strong has MT. at the same time very different. MT surrounded her self with men no women, Liz I believe will have at least 2 on the front bench Kemi one of them.   
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: klondike on August 21, 2022, 06:26:52 PM
Meanwhile...
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Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Diasi on August 22, 2022, 11:03:25 AM
Quote from: Raven on August 21, 2022, 11:16:00 AMThanks Hugh, I thought it was something along those lines.
The self-promoting video that Sunak released had taken several weeks to create.

When I was in a Zoom meeting, which included our MP & a Liz Truss supporting Cabinet Minister a couple of weeks ago, it was confirmed, to those of us who could read between the lines, that the majority of Tory Party members wouldn't piss on Sunak if he was on fire.

Of course, they weren't the words that were used.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: klondike on August 22, 2022, 04:07:36 PM
I read variety of stuff on Quora most days. Recently there have been lots of these adverts littering some of the feeds I look at. Now I mentioned a while back that I thought he smiles too much so is it just my opinion or does anybody else think these just look smarmy?

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Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Diasi on August 22, 2022, 05:05:50 PM
Quote from: klondike on August 22, 2022, 04:07:36 PMI read variety of stuff on Quora most days. Recently there have been lots of these adverts littering some of the feeds I look at. Now I mentioned a while back that I thought he smiles too much so is it just my opinion or does anybody else think these just look smarmy?

(https://i.postimg.cc/5NPQVwXZ/Screenshot-2022-08-22-15-43-26.png) (https://postimages.org/)
The last time I saw a politician this smarmy & always grinning was back in 1997.

And we didn't do too well under his leadership.

I have noticed that both candidates use the phrases 'targetted help, 'help for the poorest' help for the vulnerable' quite liberally, so those of us with private pensions can whistle Dixie & look after ourseleves, just like we've always been expected to do.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: GrannyMac on August 22, 2022, 06:02:34 PM
I neither pay income tax nor qualify for pension credit.  I'm far from alone in this. Reducing income tax, or giving means tested benefits won't help my OH and I.

I suppose I should support a reduction in income tax, as that would at least benefit my kids.
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Michael Rolls on August 23, 2022, 05:15:22 AM
and a decent OAP wouldn't hurt
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Diasi on August 23, 2022, 08:36:27 AM
I'm waiting to see what the CPI figure is in September.

It was 10.1% in July.

https://www.rateinflation.com/inflation-rate/uk-inflation-rate/
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: klondike on August 23, 2022, 09:30:29 AM
We got cheated out of the "artificial" 8% so doubtless they'll find some way of reneging. Anyway any percentage of next to SFA still isn't much. 
Title: Re: Husting in Manchester
Post by: Ashy on September 24, 2022, 02:19:03 PM
Can one be prosecuted for withholding the piss, if a cabinet minister is on fire?