Do you think Harry will attend ? Should he even be invited ?
I don't think he'll come, even if he is invited. Rumours kicking around that he has been offered a spot as a TV commentator by a US TV show. :grin: :grin: :grin: whatever next !
After the treatment at the funeral I would not be coming anywhere near. I would not let the rest of the family treat me like that. I would send a nice card or something to Charles just to wish him well but that would be it. I kind of know what it's like to be the family black sheep and have the rest turn on you. It happened to me and I didn't speak to any of my family for many years. I don't like talking about what led up to the split, so I won't, but I got on with my life and ignored the rest of them.
Yes we talk now and we're close as we ever were, all except the sister nearest to me in age, we will speak nicely if we are at a family doo but won't ever meet up for coffee ect again. That's just the way it is. BUT, I don't think everything in this fall out is Harry's fault at all, I believe William and Kate can are are just as guilty of things as Harry and Meghan.
Harry has been petulant, his mental health and frequent drug taking seem to have stripped him of recognising how privileged he is. We have only heard his side re the funeral, and other issues. First of two children usually get the biggest bedroom in ordinary families, do they all harbour resentment?
Not being the heir means much more freedom! Lets face it, most families have their gripes and resentments but don't broadcast them, especially not if they're obsessed by 'privacy'. I'd love to get Princess Anne's take on his behaviour. She actively avoided titles for her kids. 👏🏼
AND, I believe her children are all the happier for it. That title must weigh a ton round the necks of the ones who have it and don't really want or need it.
My sister had the best bedroom.. I had the box room.. Like being in a cell.. She also had a dressing table and wardrobe.. My room was only big enough for a single bed.. Did I complain to my mum !! No.. She would have just said 'Be thankful that you have a bloody bed.. '
Quote from: Raven on January 22, 2023, 12:22:44 PMAND, I believe her children are all the happier for it. That title must weigh a ton round the necks of the ones who have it and don't really want or need it.
I think so too. Its a pity Auntie Anne didn't step in before Harry moaned about every minor slight he believes was made against him or more recently MM. He may be telling 'his' truth, but that's never the full story.
Quote from: Raven on January 22, 2023, 10:52:51 AMAfter the treatment at the funeral I would not be coming anywhere near. I would not let the rest of the family treat me like that. I would send a nice card or something to Charles just to wish him well but that would be it. I kind of know what it's like to be the family black sheep and have the rest turn on you. It happened to me and I didn't speak to any of my family for many years. I don't like talking about what led up to the split, so I won't, but I got on with my life and ignored the rest of them.
Yes we talk now and we're close as we ever were, all except the sister nearest to me in age, we will speak nicely if we are at a family doo but won't ever meet up for coffee ect again. That's just the way it is. BUT, I don't think everything in this fall out is Harry's fault at all, I believe William and Kate can are are just as guilty of things as Harry and Meghan.
Well, I suppose it's nice to hear that there is at least one person who likes and supports him.
I certainly feel the complete opposite.
To be as fair as I can, I see MeAgain as the real dusky person in the log pile, and Harold as nothing more than a naive and easily led fool.
At the end of the day, MeMe will be off when Harold either loses his titles or his 'books' become too boring for anyone (even the most nosey) to bother buying. What will he do then? He'll have nothing... and deserve it.
I'm not on either Harry or William's side, they are brothers and they fall out. This time it got out of control. The media got hold of it and milked it for everything they could. I'm pretty sure it's been made worse by their damn "opinion" reporting. Lots of people believe if it's in the news then it must be true, totally forgetting that it's the media's job to sell papers so they juicy it up as far as they can, no matter if it's true or not. My whole point on my previous post is.....I believe William just as able to row and say horrible things as Harry is. I blame both of them not just one. I haven't taken sides nor will I. William is the favourite and people have taken his side in all this. IMPO this would have all blown over and tempers cooled if others had kept their noses out instead of stirring the pot and making it worse.
The Oprah interview, Netflix documentary and Book along with seeking to tell everybody on a daily basis how badly you have been treated and what bastards your whole family are may just have stirred the pot a bit too I suppose.
I agree if it wasn't for Harry encouraging media attention, none of this would have happened. The media reported what he'd written in the book !
Harry makes his own publicity.. If there was No Book.. No Interviews.. the press would have nothing to report..
They are reporting / quoting what Harry puts out there..
He is an overindulged fool.. who is losing popularity in America.. Idiot.
Anyway... I don't think Harry will be coming.. Meghan has decided..
Quote from: Scrumpy on January 22, 2023, 12:57:56 PMMy sister had the best bedroom.. I had the box room.. Like being in a cell.. She also had a dressing table and wardrobe.. My room was only big enough for a single bed.. Did I complain to my mum !! No.. She would have just said 'Be thankful that you have a bloody bed.. '
I had my sister's hand me down frocks .. and in this age of 'transgenderisn' I'm just thankful I didn't have to wear my two brothers Y fronts.
January 28, 2023, 07:47:06 PMQuote from: Raven on January 23, 2023, 11:19:36 AMI'm not on either Harry or William's side, they are brothers and they fall out. This time it got out of control. The media got hold of it and milked it for everything they could.
That's generally the desired outcome of a book launch especially with two live TV interviews to boost sales.
Myself, I think Charles will invite Him (if not Meg) as he's too soft to do otherwise ... Harry will keep everyone in suspense right up until coronation day, dithering whether to come whilst hand wringing over poor security and danger to his life.
In a way it's sad ... as a 'Spare' he could have had the good life, full of privelige with little responsbility and pressure whilst he and Meghan could have given the Royal family a little glamour whilst globetrotting around the world as ambassadors for worthwhile causes.
It's sad to see him so bitter, resentful and vengeful.
Can't help thinking the split between Wills and Harry is irreparable now and once Charles has gone the break will be final, probably with more open animosity.
Oh Dear I hope not. I'd like to see them back in the fold, doing just as you said on your post.
It would have been better wouldn't it and I can see that Harry then had the popularity , helped along by an attractive and engaging wife, to blaze something of a trail and help bring the Royals into the 21st century.
Just not meant to be I guess ...
I doubt there will be any reconciliation .. Harry has opened his mouth a bit too wide for that..
The public are not too keen on him.. He is seen as a greedy, overindulged, brat..
Anyway.. if he came back into the fold he would have nothing to moan or write about..
There will soon be more black sheep in that family than white. Come to think though twas ever thus.
I've always thought that William was a nasty piece of work.
It's some of his faces when he thinks the cameras aren't on him.
Aww! come on... I've seen some ghastly pics of me when I haven't been looking..
I think that would apply to most of us..
Quote from: Scrumpy on January 29, 2023, 11:33:40 AMAww! come on... I've seen some ghastly pics of me when I haven't been looking..
I think that would apply to most of us..
Well that's my view of him & there's a difference between an unguarded photo of him scratching his arse & the nasty unguarded look he has.
Phil.. You have a lovely way with words.. Nobody says it better.. :grin: :grin:
Quote from: Diasi on January 29, 2023, 11:22:36 AMI've always thought that William was a nasty piece of work.
It's some of his faces when he thinks the cameras aren't on him.
Yes, I have been saying that for quite a while now. He has a scowl that would curdle the milk. He's not nearly as innocent in all this as he likes to pretend.
Just been and googled as there was some real cracking scowls of his there, BUT, they have been removed. Next time I see any I'm whipping them before they get removed. Sheeezze no wonder people don't believe me when I mention it. Proof has gone. 😡
Quote from: Diasi on January 29, 2023, 11:22:36 AMI've always thought that William was a nasty piece of work.
It's some of his faces when he thinks the cameras aren't on him.
Well if we've ruminating over photos ..
Can anyone remember back to the 2012 Olympics in London, pre-Meghan .. there were a few photos then of Harry, Kate and Wills and the way Harry was looking at Kate, with Wills a spare gooseberry .. made me wonder if he fancied his own brother's wife.
Not a good recipe for harmony between brothers.
Quote from: morty on January 29, 2023, 05:09:07 PMWell if we've ruminating over photos ..
Can anyone remember back to the 2012 Olympics in London, pre-Meghan .. there were a few photos then of Harry, Kate and Wills and the way Harry was looking at Kate, with Wills a spare gooseberry .. made me wonder if he fancied his own brother's wife.
Not a good recipe for harmony between brothers.
Oooohhhh Blimey surely not. :shocked:
It's probably my suspicious smutty mind.
It just struck me as I saw them together.