I have always voted for the conservative party but the way I feel now they will never get my vote again. To protect the poor we should be using our own gas, oil and coal, to hell with that, lets carry on importing and make the poor pay a green tax. My advice for Brits coming from Ukraine make your way to France, and hitch a lift across the channel but hide your paper work. Priti will get you an hotel room, other wise the war will be over before you get here. Home office what a shower but you led by Priti not real surprising.
Many Conservative voters feel the same Hugh.
Turning voters like myself away from them, they really have a problem. They had better wake up pretty fast. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
I imagine they think come the election voters like you (us actually) will give pause to what the likely outcome will be if they don't vote Tory. In some ways it's a case of better the scum you know :grin:
when i got my pay packet the only number that mattered was under TOTAL
i suspect all you tories should consider the same....
the Tax
ins.
bonus
matters nowt
it you let Starmer in i will never forgive you... [2090]
Labour party cannot possibly be worse than whats going on at the moment klondike. Dread to think what many poor people will do with the cost of living rocketing up. This is just not the time for tax rises. When a loaf of bread which was £1 now £1.30 makes you think hard. I am OK money wise so nothing to fear.
lend us a tenner.. :yell:
NO :grin: :grin: but saving as much as I can to support my two lads should they require help.
I still regard the Conservatives, for all their faults - and currently there are many - as the least worst option
Mike
Quote from: Michael Rolls on March 08, 2022, 04:52:02 AM
I still regard the Conservatives, for all their faults - and currently there are many - as the least worst option
Mike
I agree. Boris has his faults but shows no signs of weakness despite having one awful problem after another.
What concerns me are all those who lack the mental capacity to see that the causes of the present cost of living rises are totally beyond the control of anyone in the UK.
not all of them are - the 'green taxes' are self imposed
Mike
I grew up in a Labour family, Dad was a trade union member all his working life . When Maggie came to power, he hated her, but saw her as a better alternative to Foot. He never lost his Labour tendencies, but hated the lost opportunities of Wilson and Blair.
Now , they have all merged into a vote seeking, ' we will give you whatever you want and put the country into debt so you do not have to pay for it ' waste of oxygen.
When you probably don't need to take your socks off to count your remaining years it may be attractive to some even if their past experience tells them there will be consequences later.
Best I keep my thoughts about Conservatives to myself. [1150] [2030] [1090]
Quote from: Michael Rolls on March 08, 2022, 08:28:34 AM
not all of them are - the 'green taxes' are self imposed
Mike
In the current situation, as a percentage of the total cost of living increases, the green taxes are minimal.
But I think they should be scrapped along with the VAT on energy, even if it only serves to give us a feel-good factor as it won't make a small dent in gas prices which have shot up by 1500%.
Nah, go on - share - I'm wearing my NCB suit
Mike 😁😁
Quote from: Michael Rolls on March 08, 2022, 11:59:06 AM
Nah, go on - share - I'm wearing my NCB suit
Mike 😁😁
is it orange like mine was :?:
Yup. Actually, we were only ever shown them, not issued with them
Mike
Oh, and for some reason they were referred to as 'noddy suits', which was a bit confusing, as that term was also used for our best blues
Mike
it was quite a sight the first day we were issued with them, i dont know how many of you are aware of the 'orange walk' but thats what i thought of as i watched the miners heading for the pit cage... all in dazzling bright clean 'work-wear' with their helmets and cap-lamps, heavy batteries strapped to their waists.... just another bill to add to the costs to make the pits unprofitable... but we didnt know that then.. :waiting:
The only politician I have any respect for is Farage. He is the only one who has managed to get something delivered which I wanted done.
Me too, he's not afraid to ruffle feathers, it's no wonder he has to pay for a body guard.
but sadly he has failed to enter 'that place' where he might do some good.... anyone can do the talk, we need him to do the walk [and yes i too am a fan]
Only because the same old sheepies keep voting Labour !
send him to Doncaster....
Quote from: crabbyob on March 08, 2022, 02:17:00 PM
but sadly he has failed to enter 'that place' where he might do some good....
He got us out of the EU without ever being an MP. Who knows what sensible stuff might happen were he PM.
Quote from: klondike on March 08, 2022, 01:47:10 PM
The only politician I have any respect for is Farage. He is the only one who has managed to get something delivered which I wanted done.
I'll second that.
Plus he was prepared to pay for it by losing his EU salary & perks.
If I couldn't vote Conservative then I wouldn't bother to vote..
So Boris is a prat !!! ... but he has had a rough ride what with Brexit..Covid and now Ukraine.. and nobody has challenged him.. Because they haven't the balls to do so..
I often wonder how those who keep spouting their mouths off could do any better..
Doubtful
Quote from: Scrumpy on March 08, 2022, 06:56:12 PM
If I couldn't vote Conservative then I wouldn't bother to vote..
So Boris is a prat !!! ... but he has had a rough ride what with Brexit..Covid and now Ukraine.. and nobody has challenged him.. Because they haven't the balls to do so..
I often wonder how those who keep spouting their mouths off could do any better..
Well half of the Labour Party would be sending arms to Russia.
yes i wonder if they realise they are Boris's biggest assets... tossers
both my mate and i were tradeunionists, i was a shop steward but he went much further.
but neither of us even vote for this liebour lot now, and it is soul destrying to watch... PMQ's Today at Twelve?
This next six months will be the making or breaking of Boris I feel, my feelings are based on how he deals with the rise in the cost of living.
None of my private pensions are index linked so inflation could be an issue depending on how many years I have left. I think HMG has two ways they might go considering the huge public debt built up this last couple of years. They may let inflation rip so reducing the capital value of the debt assuming it is Stirling debt (no idea if it is) or they may try to clamp down on it to retain low interest rates. There is only one certainty. We will all end up worse off unless there is some miracle cure.
Quote from: hugh on March 09, 2022, 09:41:17 AM
This next six months will be the making or breaking of Boris I feel, my feelings are based on how he deals with the rise in the cost of living.
It'll certainly be tricky for him to deal with a world-wide crisis over which he has zero control & extremely limited options.
May council elections could turn out to be painful...
They near always are for the party in power. Low turnout and only the pissed off tend to bother
Mike
The question is just how bad. Polling varies constantly and is sometimes inaccurate but considering there was an 80 seat majority in 2019 and I can't see that Starmer is a huge asset the current numbers look dire and we still have a lot worse economic news (and bills) coming.
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html
Labour still show as being short of a majority but I can't see either the SNP or LibDems propping up Boris plus an awful lot of those shiny new Red Wall seats will fall. Those guys won't be pleased having supped at the trough they'll want to stay supping and if it looks like Boris is a liability to them then the knives will be out.
Quote from: klondike on March 09, 2022, 12:18:47 PM
The question is just how bad. Polling varies constantly and is sometimes inaccurate but considering there was an 80 seat majority in 2019 and I can't see that Starmer is a huge asset the current numbers look dire and we still have a lot worse economic news (and bills) coming.
That's the problem, there will always be those stupid enough to blame Boris for things over which he has no to little control.
He or more likey his latest wife is to blame for the Net Zero forthcoming disaster.