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Title: Poor Joe.
Post by: Scrumpy on October 07, 2022, 08:43:17 AM
I read this in the press.

While at an event in Washington this week, the President asked Indiana congresswoman  Jackie Walorski to identify herself...

' I want to thank all of you here Representative Jim McGovern.. Senator Mike Braun, Senator Cory Booker.  Representative Jackie- are you here?  Where's Jackie?- I think she was going to be here.' the President said.
Sadly,Jackie could not be there as she died two months earlier in a car crash.
Biden even issued a statement at the time paying tribute to her.

Oh dear.. poor Joe.. Time to retire me thinks..
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: klondike on October 07, 2022, 09:04:20 AM
Lucky he is only a  ludicrous front man and does nothing of any importance I guess. Makes you wonder just who the real president is that they have to be kept so well hidden from public view.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Diasi on October 07, 2022, 09:16:30 AM
Quote from: klondike on October 07, 2022, 09:04:20 AMLucky he is only a  ludicrous front man and does nothing of any importance I guess. Makes you wonder just who the real president is that they have to be kept so well hidden from public view.
Whoever it is they'll have close connections with the Bilderberg Group, Gate's Foundation etc.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Alex on October 07, 2022, 12:39:43 PM
And they moaned about Trump  ! :boo:
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Ashy on October 07, 2022, 12:51:16 PM
They piled onto President Trump accusing him of wanting to start a nuclear war. In fact he didn't start any war. How times change.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: klondike on October 07, 2022, 01:37:17 PM
I wonder how the mid terms will go....
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Cassandra on October 07, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: Diasi on October 07, 2022, 09:16:30 AMWhoever it is they'll have close connections with the Bilderberg Group, Gate's Foundation etc.

Well we can't say they didn't warn us. This is Klaus Schwab the founder of the World Economic Forum whose membership includes Kong Charles, Presidents Biden and Macron etc etc. The original Davos man ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijq3Ai04iMk
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Ashy on October 07, 2022, 05:32:29 PM
You have to look at him as if he is wearing an armband and a moustache.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Cassandra on October 07, 2022, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: klondike on October 07, 2022, 01:37:17 PMI wonder how the mid terms will go....

Over here unbelievably badly for the Dumbocrat Wokes, who have lassoed a lot of the media, but this country has a way of resisting it far better than the UK. The party of Kennedy has already ditched Sleepy Joe and his eldritch Vice President, Kamala Harris for a better looking class of younger liar in Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California.

Of course there's still the 'Wicked Witch of the West' Hilary Clinton (75 this month). Frighteningly 26% want Joe, or whats left of him to stand again, an oxymoronic statement if ever there was one!
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: klondike on October 07, 2022, 06:18:42 PM
Quote from: Cassandra on October 07, 2022, 05:50:00 PMa better looking class of younger liar in Gavin Newsom, the Governor of California.
I must admit I don't keep track of American politics but I did see an be article and a picture of the dashing young chap earlier. I knew nothing about him but from the little I do know "Governor of California" probably tells me all that I need.

Do you have American citizenship Cass and if so will you be voting there.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Alex on October 08, 2022, 12:57:12 AM
I don't know much about US politics, I took more interest when Trump was President  :smiley: but I have been reading for sometime about Ron de Santis the Governor of Florida who is also an ex Navy man.  He would be like a more serious version of Trump in many ways. :upvote: 
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Cassandra on October 08, 2022, 01:44:37 AM
Quote from: klondike on October 07, 2022, 06:18:42 PMI must admit I don't keep track of American politics but I did see an be article and a picture of the dashing young chap earlier. I knew nothing about him but from the little I do know "Governor of California" probably tells me all that I need.

Do you have American citizenship Cass and if so will you be voting there.

Yes my mother was American, born not far from my home now, so I've had dual nationality from the age of 9. I will be voting next month most certainly yes, but despite bring able to so do, not in the UK again.

Firstly I think its a bit of a social distortion to vote in a Country you don't reside in, but secondly because from distaste I wouldn't, even if I did.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Scrumpy on October 08, 2022, 01:34:02 PM
I agree with Cassandra.. I don't think people should be voting in a country that they no longer live in..  Don't you just love those that know how another country should be run when their own country is a shambles.. !!
 A bit like our Labour Party telling our Conservative Government what they are doing wrong.. But cock it up themselves ..
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Alex on October 08, 2022, 01:45:54 PM
I didn't vote when I lived abroad, but I know some ex-pats feel strongly about using their vote. 
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Raven on October 08, 2022, 02:01:23 PM
They also expect to receive the Winter Payment of £200. :nooo: That should be stopped if they live abroad, especially the bigger one due this year. :boo:
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Cassandra on October 08, 2022, 04:19:12 PM
Quote from: Raven on October 08, 2022, 02:01:23 PMThey also expect to receive the Winter Payment of £200. :nooo: That should be stopped if they live abroad, especially the bigger one due this year. :boo:

Surely not, it must be for UK residents only? The Gov know if we live abroad because our pensions (quite rightly) are capped at the rate that was applicable upon departure. I never expected anything other than that paid to me presently, as I refer to above, which I consider a fair presumption of judgement all round.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Raven on October 08, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
Ex Pats in Spain were certainly getting the £200.

Hmmmm, went on Google and had a check. Seems not as many as before are still getting the allowance.

https://forthcapital.com/british-expat-winter-fuel-allowance/
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: klondike on October 08, 2022, 07:56:02 PM
Ex-pats to some countries get increases while others don't I think. The problem as I see it is that recipients of a state pension who spend it in the UK pay UK taxes when spending it (VAT etc.) while any money paid to ex-pats is a total loss to the UK economy. Not sure what a fair approach would be.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Alex on October 08, 2022, 08:41:10 PM
Many pensioners who retire and then go to live in Europe have paid in to the UK system all their working lives, what are they to live on if not their UK pension  ?. I don't think they should receive any 'extras'
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Raven on October 08, 2022, 09:20:04 PM
That's my point Alex, they have paid for their pensions so yes of course they should have it. :upvote:
It's The Winter £200 and any other extras I object to, why should someone who's having Christmas Dinner outside in the lovely warm weather get the heating allowance. :wtf:  :sad:
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: morty on October 08, 2022, 10:11:44 PM
Quote from: Raven on October 08, 2022, 09:20:04 PMwhy should someone who's having Christmas Dinner outside in the lovely warm weather get the heating allowance. :wtf:  :sad:
Years back on another forum I was on that was explained to us by an ex-pat ... apparently they need the £200 to pay for their air conditioning in summer.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Alex on October 08, 2022, 10:38:55 PM
It can get bloody cold in Spain too in winter, not as bad as here mind but where my friend lives in Murcia, he often has zeroº in January and February.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Scrumpy on October 09, 2022, 08:36:31 AM

Some people I know ,who are pensioners, went to Australia to retire.. They are able to draw their pension but it was capped at the payout received on date of departure.. I hope I am right..
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: klondike on October 09, 2022, 09:21:38 AM
https://www.iexpats.com/uk-state-pension-guide-for-expats/#:~:text=following%20April%206.-,Which%20countries%20uprate%20the%20state%20pension%20for%20expats%3F,500%2C000%20are%20excluded%20from%20uprating.

Uprating the state pension increases the payment in line with the cost of living.

Expats paid the UK state pension in one of the countries listed below to pick up the same uprating as someone receiving the pension in the UK.

Here's the list of countries where the expat state pension is uprated:

Austria    Guernsey    Montenegro
Barbados    Hungary    Netherlands
Belgium    Iceland    New Zealand
Bermuda    Ireland    Norway
Bosnia-Herzegovina    Isle of Man    North Macedonia
Bulgaria    Israel    Philippines
Canada    Italy    Poland
Chile    Jamaica    Portugal
Croatia    Japan    Romania
Cyprus    Jersey    Serbia
Czech Republic    Kosovo    Slovakia
Denmark    Latvia    Slovenia
Estonia    Liechtenstein    South Korea
Finland    Lithuania    Spain
France    Luxembourg    Sweden
Germany    Malta    Turkey
Greece    Mauritius    USA
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: morty on October 09, 2022, 01:59:48 PM
Ah makes sense ... I was about to say it depended on which country you retired to and what kind of reciprocal agreement existed between the two countries.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: klondike on October 09, 2022, 02:51:40 PM
I don't know why you get increases in some places but not others. I just knew that you did.
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Cassandra on October 10, 2022, 08:36:51 PM
Quote from: klondike on October 09, 2022, 09:21:38 AMhttps://www.iexpats.com/uk-state-pension-guide-for-expats/#:~:text=following%20April%206.-,Which%20countries%20uprate%20the%20state%20pension%20for%20expats%3F,500%2C000%20are%20excluded%20from%20uprating.

Uprating the state pension increases the payment in line with the cost of living.

Expats paid the UK state pension in one of the countries listed below to pick up the same uprating as someone receiving the pension in the UK.

Here's the list of countries where the expat state pension is uprated:

The Home Office, or Immigrantion Assistance Office, told me my pension was Frozen until I returned to live in the UK permanently at the rate when I left and indeed it was not uprated this April? From what I made of Klon's very helpful post, it seems I will get it in the second year, which is logical.

However the disinterestedly rude young woman from the 'Gov' (probably working at home, as she sounded like she was either on an exercise bike, or in the middle of an orgasm) that I spoke with, never elicited this important addendum. Thank you Mark. :clap:
Title: Re: Poor Joe.
Post by: Alex on October 10, 2022, 08:52:58 PM
the disinterestedly rude young woman from the 'Gov' (probably working at home, as she sounded like she was either on an exercise bike, or in the middle of an orgasm) that I spoke with, never elicited this important addendum. Thank you Mark. :clap:

 :grin:  :grin:  :grin: