Police in Cologne have arrested several Islamists after a plan to attack the cathedral was uncovered. The religion of peace continues to bring terror to Europe, Christmas is their favourite time of year too it seems.
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P.s. I still believe Notre Dame was an arson attack.
I used to stay in a hotel very close to the Dom back in the days I was working for Ford and on a business trip. Very impressive and a good chunk of what they called the Alt Stadt right near there survived the war which I found surprising.
Years later I was working for a different company and was at some company confrerence or other in Frankfurt. I was amused when one of the blokes I was there with commented on how modern everything was. I can't recall if anybody explained why but can remember thinking "There's a very good reason for that".
Quote from: Alex on December 24, 2023, 02:53:59 AMPolice in Cologne have arrested several Islamists after a plan to attack the cathedral was uncovered. The religion of peace continues to bring terror to Europe, Christmas is their favourite time of year too it seems.
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P.s. I still believe Notre Dame was an arson attack.
A sign of things to come.
I'd love to see some mosques suddenly, and for no apparent reason, going up in flames.
I've been to Cologne Cathedral a number of times. It is a very impressive building. We bombed it in the war - the north transept was severely damaged (including the organ) but was quickly restored. The eastern half is mediaeval, but the western half is mostly 19th century in the same style. The biggest church north of the alps.
German news reported that security authorities in Austria, Germany and Spain had received a tip-off an Islamist group intended to carry out attacks during Christmas and New Year at other cathedrals including Vienna. Christmas Eve services are going ahead in Koln, which is good to hear.
Why on earth can't our government see what they have done and what, as a consequence, is definitely coming?
Is this the start of a new reformation? It went so well back in the 16th Century. Wonder which religious order will be wiped out? I know which one I think I might prefer.
Quote from: dextrous63 on December 26, 2023, 11:01:47 AMIs this the start of a new reformation? It went so well back in the 16th Century. Wonder which religious order will be wiped out? I know which one I think I might prefer.
We all know which religious order will take its place.
Not only that, it will eventually take full control of the country (and others).
The writing is on the wall, but thankfully I shall not see it.
Quote from: JBR on December 26, 2023, 10:37:24 AMWhy on earth can't our government see what they have done and what, as a consequence, is definitely coming?
I do wonder, when these overpaid politicians were dreaming up multiculturalism, didn't it ever occur to them that the "cultures" they were importing, might either fight each other, or us, or both, at some time? And given that some are more likely to than others, they should have been more careful who they were importing.
We could send Bomber Command over again to sort it out.
Quote from: 1955vintage on December 26, 2023, 01:41:15 PMWe could send Bomber Command over again to sort it out.
Well, we did manage to bomb Cologne Cathedral's north transept, though through the good works of God, there was no further damage to the building.
I'm sure the RAF didn't mean to hit the cathedral. There was no secret possession of any part of the building by the SS and, as far as I know, it had no military value at all.
Unfortunately, we no longer have a Bomber Command, but if we had I think we should send the first wave over Brussels!
Neither do we have much of a Royal Navy now, but what resources we do have I believe should be patrolling the English Channel to destroy as many as possible of those highly dangerous rubber dinghies sent by the enemy.
Wonder what would happen if someone set off a few bombs in the Great mosque of Mecca?
There would be an uproar, crys of racist against Muslims ect ect.
Quote from: Raven on December 26, 2023, 05:00:03 PMThere would be an uproar, crys of racist against Muslims ect ect.
Not if it was Iran wot did it!
In fact, I'm not sure who they would actually blame. Can't blame your very own religion.
Quote from: JBR on December 26, 2023, 09:41:45 PMNot if it was Iran wot did it!
In fact, I'm not sure who they would actually blame. Can't blame your very own religion.
Sunni v Shia??
Quote from: dextrous63 on December 26, 2023, 10:09:26 PMSunni v Shia??
Perhaps they are different versions of "the true religion"(!),
but against any non-muslims I'm sure they'd stick together.
No doubt. Mind you, Protestants weren't entirely averse to doing particularly unpleasant things to Catholics. And vice versa, no doubt.
Just seems to me that the religion of peace has so many splinter groups, with plenty of them happy to destroy/kill/maim Allah's other creations that eventually it'll just all kick off. Or at least it'll never settle down, a bit like someone with lifelong acne, there's always be some unwelcome pus.
Quote from: dextrous63 on December 26, 2023, 10:22:47 PMNo doubt. Mind you, Protestants weren't entirely averse to doing particularly unpleasant things to Catholics. And vice versa, no doubt.
Just seems to me that the religion of peace has so many splinter groups, with plenty of them happy to destroy/kill/maim Allah's other creations that eventually it'll just all kick off. Or at least it'll never settle down, a bit like someone with lifelong acne, there's always be some unwelcome pus.
Mainly in Northern Ireland, of course.
I was thinking more of the 16th Century.
Quote from: dextrous63 on December 26, 2023, 10:37:15 PMI was thinking more of the 16th Century.
Oh yes, but it still goes on.
One thing about religion generally, it does tend to prevent people being friends with each other.
Not, I suspect, what God really intended! 🙄
I think the diffeence is that - at least here in Germany and above all after the fall of the wall - religion doesn't play any important role anymore and we got very critical. When my greatgrandparents lived and only a few people were able to read and write, people believed what those people told them who were able to read and write and in some parts of the world this hasn't changed. Moreover, wouldn't it be wonderful for a boy/man to die as a martyr when seven virgins are awaiting him???
In the Middle Age people had a very hard life and believed that when they died they came to paradise and had a wonderful life there.
As to New Year's Eve - some years ago I spent it in Vienna and in Berlin and I must admit that the main places are so crowded and you can easily avoid the controls, so it's no problem for a terrorist to carry out an attack there. In our papers I read that more police will be there this year - so let's hope that we will welcome the new year without any attacks.
Quote from: ansu on December 28, 2023, 09:46:32 AMwouldn't it be wonderful for a boy/man to die as a martyr when seven virgins are awaiting him???
According to this - https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/islamic-scholar-punctures-72-virgins-theory-says-martyrs-will-only-get-raisins-in-heaven-340579.html there are going to be a lot who are very disappointed.
"Nowhere in the Quran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. ... The Arabic word for 'virgin' has been mistranslated. The original [word] that was used in the Quran was the word for raisin, not virgin. In other words, that martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins," Manji said.Not even chocolate ones either :sad:
I wonder if it's the disappointment in the removal of those poppet dispensers in tube stations that made them think that life simply wasn't with living.
Quote from: klondike on December 28, 2023, 10:11:12 AMAccording to this - https://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/islamic-scholar-punctures-72-virgins-theory-says-martyrs-will-only-get-raisins-in-heaven-340579.html there are going to be a lot who are very disappointed.
"Nowhere in the Quran does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins. ... The Arabic word for 'virgin' has been mistranslated. The original [word] that was used in the Quran was the word for raisin, not virgin. In other words, that martyrs would get raisins in heaven, not virgins," Manji said.
Not even chocolate ones either :sad:
72 raisins as a reward in heaven! Oh, I can't wait!
It isn't as if we can't have as many raisins as we can possibly eat here on earth. 🤣
Some days ago on German TV a muslim boy - about 15 years old - said that he wanted to die as a martyr - quite a different mentality.
Quote from: ansu on December 29, 2023, 10:54:35 AMSome days ago on German TV a muslim boy - about 15 years old - said that he wanted to die as a martyr - quite a different mentality.
Religious brainwashing!
I was going to say that I hope he gets what he wants, but that would be a bit nasty! Wouldn't it?
It certainly would be for the poor sods caught up in the bang.
New Year is here and if our papers are correct - no martyrs and not too many problems in Berlin, Leipzig, Cologne etc.
When I was a teenager new year's eve was a peaceful day and evening with fireworks. No idea why people got so aggressive in the meantime.
Calm old New Year's Eve in France too. Only 745 cars set alight...
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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/01/02/france-hails-calm-new-years-eve-as-only-745-vehicles-set-on-fire/
Quote from: klondike on January 03, 2024, 02:04:08 PMCalm old New Year's Eve in France too. Only 745 cars set alight...
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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/01/02/france-hails-calm-new-years-eve-as-only-745-vehicles-set-on-fire/
Hopefully most were electric ...
Quote from: ansu on January 03, 2024, 01:37:14 PMNew Year is here and if our papers are correct - no martyrs and not too many problems in Berlin, Leipzig, Cologne etc.
When I was a teenager new year's eve was a peaceful day and evening with fireworks. No idea why people got so aggressive in the meantime.
Our papers say differently Ansu. Although not as bad as 2023 Berlin commenced New Year in chaos, with riots breaking out across the capital city seeing police officers targeted.
Approximately 4,500 officers were deployed to Berlin's streets on December 31, a police presence not seen in the city in decades.
Quote from: Cassandra on January 03, 2024, 03:07:47 PMHopefully most were electric ...
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From what I hear, EVs don't require third parties to set fire to them. They do it automatically!
January 03, 2024, 03:26:28 PMQuote from: Alex on January 03, 2024, 03:20:17 PMOur papers say differently Ansu. Although not as bad as 2023 Berlin commenced New Year in chaos, with riots breaking out across the capital city seeing police officers targeted.
Approximately 4,500 officers were deployed to Berlin's streets on December 31, a police presence not seen in the city in decades.
Not only Germany. Due to our apparent welcoming of unwelcome new visitors, such events are likely to be commonplace throughout most of western Europe, including here in the UK of course.
You are right Alex, but on the whole I have the impression people got extremely aggressive - no idea why. Maybe there's a lack of a common goal like rebuilding the country as after WW II. People never before had such a comfortable life as today, but they aren't happy and satisfied - on the contrary.