Quote from: klondike on July 30, 2022, 10:54:58 PMMany low paid people live a very hand to mouth existence. Last winter their typical energy bill was around £1,000pa There has been a year of quite high inflation on everyday necessitates. Wages have certainly not kept step. This winter energy bills are forecast to be around £3,000. For the likes of Sunak finding a few thousand more to pay the power bill is unlikely to be over troubling but the millions living hand to mouth already will have no chance even with a few hundred knocked off by the government.

I predict that things are going to become very very nasty indeed. I have no idea in any detail just what will happen but I think we could well see civil unrest.

I predict that one security guard in a supermarket won't be enough.

Generation Z and the millenials are already subliminally conditioned. They accept, indeed expect their lives to be controlled by the increasingly autocratic state or other hegemonys, such as the Bildenbergers or the WEF. Through auto-suggestive controls distributed via say Smartphones, or their replacements a different method of near total domination is maturing right in front of our eyes.

Aldous Huxley suggested sleep learning in his ground breaking novel 'Brave New World' in 1928. By the adaption of miniaturised digital science, the total absorbtion of the masses, and the re-write of our very history to date will be completed by the high-tec mind-control of the new masters.

Good to get an upbeat appraisal Cass 

Quote from: hugh on July 31, 2022, 08:30:00 AMColour of their skin doesn't matter one jot to me. In fact the person who I was hoping would reach the final two was a nice shade of black. I am hoping she will get a good job under Liz. Sunak is just not a Conservative he would fit better in the Labour Party. I have a very strong feeling Liz will do a good job and deal with the cost of living, and inflation two task facing her. My vote will or should be in the post this coming week.

Or me, and I had a similar hope Hugh. I didn't want Truss, but now I feel she's the more viable candidate.  Not that I have a say.

Perhaps we oldies ought to just think of ourselves, and let the following generations worry about everything else!

Quote from: GrannyMac on August 01, 2022, 07:20:22 AMPerhaps we oldies ought to just think of ourselves, and let the following generations worry about everything else!

.. and herein lies the answer..

My father was a lifelong Tory voter despite being a working class bloke. He switched over to Blair at the end of his days. That didn't work out well long term as it set us on the path of mass immigration and a middle east in turmoil. We need a conservative government. Pity there isn't one on offer.

Quote from: GrannyMac on August 01, 2022, 07:20:22 AMPerhaps we oldies ought to just think of ourselves, and let the following generations worry about everything else!

An interesting concept.

Will your grandchildren, when they can vote, do so on the current events in their life or will they vote for what they think might be best for the generation in a 100 year's time?

I think the bulk of voters vote the way that they always did usually swayed by parents or friends who were probably swayed by their parents.

Swing voters probably vote on what happened over the last six months. Or are supreme optimists idiots and believe politicians promises.

As we can't predict 100 days into the future with any certainty those that vote for what's best over the next 100 years are pretty much delusional. I certainly was when I voted for Brexit expecting us to be free of the bloody EU if the vote was won.

intrigued to see that our ex-Chancellor is talking about the basic rate of income tax coming down to 16p under his guidance. Remind me - what job did he have until recently? Didn't he put the tax burden up?
Mike

You have more chance of seeing the Titanic sailing into Loch Ness than seeing income tax reduced. As to his other scam about missing NHS appointments, we are much more likely to find we have to pay to make an appointment.

As GP appointments are rarer than rocking horse shit these days that won't  cost me much.

He is a drowning man..

Quote from: Michael Rolls on August 01, 2022, 03:01:26 PMintrigued to see that our ex-Chancellor is talking about the basic rate of income tax coming down to 16p under his guidance. Remind me - what job did he have until recently? Didn't he put the tax burden up?
Mike

Just proves what contempt these people have for us not thinking we will notice what they have recently done/not done. 

Not to worry Sunak will be moving out of number 11 shortly and not into 10. Penny now backing Liz but she has been sat on the fence too long. She was pretty popular up north so a job leveling up could be a good job for her.

They have been watching and waiting.. They now think that Truss has it sewn up.. So they will come out of the woodwork and back her..
They need to 'suck up' to her now... They want to maintain a good position in the government..