Quote from: Alex on July 29, 2022, 07:14:04 PMI agree Scrumps, he wants to fix the economy, would that be the economy he's been in charge of for 2 ½ years  ?

 

I'm told by a committee member of the local party I belong to back in England that the 'Pensioner Members' (about 65%) had already decided who to vote for, when the choice reduced to the final pair.

Unsurprisingly Sunak, who'd declared his intentions towards old people in his late budget with his mingy increment to OAP's, thereby deliberately cheating the'Triple lock' in face of runaway inflation are amassing behind Truss, intent on revenge.The late Chancellor may have thought that the old timers would either many be dead, or up for a cheap bribe 'fix' in the future. Unfortunately for his strategy the call has come too early and has motivated their satiate for revenge.

Poor piece of judgement, something this puck sized egotist specialises in it would seem? It will haunt him for the rest of his luxuriant days, whether spent in Belgravia or the land of the Tiger? Whichever has the 'friendlier tax-band to determine 'family' loyalty no doubt!

He cares not of the people.. Just the rewards of being PM.. 
He then can write a book telling us all how ... with determination.. good education.. and marrying well  we can all reach the top.. 
Ghastly man..

Quote from: Cassandra on July 29, 2022, 11:42:18 PMI'm told by a committee member of the local party I belong to back in England that the 'Pensioner Members' (about 65%) had already decided who to vote for, when the choice reduced to the final pair.

I'm happy to confirm that this is indeed the case & is the reason I haven't bothered to listen to any of the debates.

But even if he'd given us the 8% triple-lock pension rise we still wouldn't be voting for him as an Indian PM is a step too far.

  Having Indian parents, to me, is not a valid reason for NOT voting for a person..

I always thought it wouldn't make any difference to me what colour the PM was, as long as he wasn't Muslim.  But now we've come so close to having an Indian PM, I really think we should have a white British person to lead our country.  After all, they keep telling us that the immigrant population is the minority so let's go with the majority.

Quote from: Scrumpy on July 30, 2022, 09:32:06 AMHaving Indian parents, to me, is not a valid reason for NOT voting for a person..

He's an ethnic Indian so to me, it's not only a valid reason, it's the main reason,  I will not be voting for him on that basis.

The fact that I also regard Truss as the better of two poor choices is only a secondary  reason for voting for her.

P.S. Also, as a once supporter of the National Front, I would never vote for a politician who wasn't 'White British'.

Having been told that I am a racist if I don't vote for him, I will be voting for her.

I wouldn't vote for him.. 
But I wouldn't have someone tell me I am racist if I didn't . My reasons for not doing so is because he , in my opinion, is not the right person for the job..
Getting bloody fed up with all this crap concerning people of colour or race different to mine..
We are all treading on eggshells should we say the wrong things.. Bloody fed up with BLM.. All lives matter..
They are dictating to us..

Quote from: 1955vintage on July 30, 2022, 04:06:04 PMHaving been told that I am a racist if I don't vote for him, I will be voting for her.

Quote from: Diasi on July 30, 2022, 12:42:34 PMHe's an ethnic Indian so to me, it's not only a valid reason, it's the main reason,  I will not be voting for him on that basis.

The fact that I also regard Truss as the better of two poor choices is only a secondary  reason for voting for her.

P.S. Also, as a once supporter of the National Front, I would never vote for a politician who wasn't 'White British'.

Having made many Indian and West Indian friends from my cricketing days, I am sad to say I have to agree with both comments.

I have discussed this view with my two Ex England Test match playing pals currently still out here with me and discovered that we have all reluctantly somewhat, but definitively reached the same opinion. In taking the reasoning for such a cathartic conclusion by three men, all now septuagenarians, we found it has been a slowly developing point of view festering within all of us for twenty five plus years.

In an open and frank debate, we discovered that the contrite Woke debasement of our 'ethnicity' via BLM, LGBT, Stonewall and the MSM is a complete turn off. The Corporate gobsuckers, with their pathetic TV Ads are turning our previously held opinions towards 'people of colour' through 360 degrees. Witness the very latest provocation in the Tory leadership race, where Sunak's tribal sympathiser and cohort Lord Ranger played the wretched race card upon his behalf!

"Inevitable" one of them said, "Yes, it was only a matter of when, not if?" commented my guests as they watched UK news.

Personally, I'm fed up with these people criticising us with their increasingly aggressive and regressive opinions, as to what I am and the way I should be made to think.

If you consider us all racist for not wanting an ethnic Indian, whose family came to live here and took our nationality for his own advantage, then that's your decision. Don't however conflate my feelings into your virtue signalling propaganda by possessing the temerity to tell me what to think?.

I'm bored witless by all the TV adverts featuring black actors. I never realised until watching almost non-stop Mattress adverts on GB News that 90% of marriages or bed sharers were 'people of colour'. I thought only 3% of the British Isles was ethnologically black?

It's all gone way too far. The recitations of snowflakes and their utter dross is set to rebound on them in a way they haven't considered? The English don't wash their dirty linen in public and the repression of their feelings through the oppression of a minority on the majority will end badly I fear! The present undertow effected by a one - sided set of rules is fast developing into the inevitable terminal chaos of a dysfunctional pressure cooker.
 
Our opinion, discussed here in my home is shared I believe by many people worldwide and is increasingly ignored. The like of 'Lord' Ranger et al has motivated a desire for recognition in a Nation once held high on the altar of 'Free Speech'.

Racism is perfectly normal and natural, after all, God started it. Just part of our normal recognition sense.

And there are countries in the world that rejected being governed by foreigners, even though they were doing all right under British rule, including India.

Cassandra you have said so eloquently what most of us think. We are sick and tired of it all

Quote from: Jacqueline on July 30, 2022, 09:39:19 PMCassandra you have said so eloquently what most of us think. We are sick and tired of it all

I agree. Most eloquent and sick of it.

It doesn't overly bother me that the bloke is Indian.

I am a little annoyed that he and his wife have used tax laws to minimise their UK tax payments while he is in a position to set those tax laws.

My main concern is that he wants to be PM at a time the population of facing the most challenging financial crisis in my lifetime and he is so wealthy that he can have no possible comprehension of what millions of people will be facing.

Many low paid people live a very hand to mouth existence. Last winter their typical energy bill was around £1,000pa There has been a year of quite high inflation on everyday necessitates. Wages have certainly not kept step. This winter energy bills are forecast to be around £3,000. For the likes of Sunak finding a few thousand more to pay the power bill is unlikely to be over troubling but the millions living hand to mouth already will have no chance even with a few hundred knocked off by the government.

I predict that things are going to become very very nasty indeed. I have no idea in any detail just what will happen but I think we could well see civil unrest.

Colour of their skin doesn't matter one jot to me. In fact the person who I was hoping would reach the final two was a nice shade of black. I am hoping she will get a good job under Liz. Sunak is just not a Conservative he would fit better in the Labour Party. I have a very strong feeling Liz will do a good job and deal with the cost of living, and inflation two task facing her. My vote will or should be in the post this coming week.