Quote from: Jacqueline on July 20, 2022, 01:40:55 PMI wish they would to save us from one of the dreadful lot who will be the next PM.

4,000 at the last count.

If you look at my previous posts I did say, in one of them at least, that the ballot would be rigged to be between Sunak & Truss.

I've messaged the Party to suggest it would have been better for Tory HQ to just give us a choice between Sunak & Truss rather than the utterly farcical leadership campaign which has done nothing more than to provide amusement & column inches for the media.

P.S. At the current moment I'm debating whether or not to bother voting or to return my ballot paper with "I have no confidence in either candidate & therefore I will not vote for either of them".

Apart from Boris who would be your choice?

My own is impossible - Farage but I reckon he may well be pulled back into politics soon in some way supporting Reform UK which is what the Brexit Party morphed into and is headed up by Richard Tice.

Unfortunately our first past the post electoral system dooms any new party to failure.

Quote from: klondike on July 21, 2022, 09:16:41 AMApart from Boris who would be your choice?

My own is impossible - Farage but I reckon he may well be pulled back into politics soon in some way supporting Reform UK which is what the Brexit Party morphed into and is headed up by Richard Tice.

Unfortunately our first past the post electoral system dooms any new party to failure.

My choice, accepting that I think I shouldn't be having to make a choice, would have been Penny Mordaunt.

Forget the "not the sharpest knife in the drawer" sniping as a PM doesn't have to be.

I'd have voted for Penny Mordaunt, as would 80% of the Party members (forget the rigged Conservative Home surveys which are the views of a carefully chosen small panel of members) because she'd have been our best bet in the 2024 General Election, which I can't see us winning now.

The last thing the Party needs is either a slick leader or a dull leader which Sunak & Truss exude in equal measure.

Boris didn't need ability to win the Red Wall seats, he won them because of his personality & he came across as a bit of a Jack-the-Lad character which appealed to the lads in the building site mess huts.

P.S. I was at a Party meeting which our MP attended & he also thinks that it's a bad move getting rid of Boris Johnson.

Quote from: Diasi on July 21, 2022, 09:39:21 AMthe 2024 General Election, which I can't see us winning now

Me neither but I'm not convinced it was possible with Boris in charge either after all the media slamming and his inability to admit any mistakes. The final straw was ludicrous. First why appoint a cock groper and second why deny he knew the allegations when he had apparently been warned about them in public.

Quote from: klondike on July 21, 2022, 10:02:18 AMMe neither but I'm not convinced it was possible with Boris in charge either after all the media slamming and his inability to admit any mistakes. The final straw was ludicrous. First why appoint a cock groper and second why deny he knew the allegations when he had apparently been warned about them in public.

Maybe because they were unproven allegations at the time, but I agree he shouldn't have appointed him.

I still think that in two years time he could have pulled it off.

Forget the 'offendeds of Tiverton', they aren't the ones in the Red Wall seats who'd have backed Boris again, based purely on his Jack-the-Lad non-conformist character.

And the 'offendeds of Tiverton' would have returned to voting for the Tories in 2024.

Boris will start rolling in the £millions and good luck to him. Surprising just how people have been on TV supporting Rishi, but none of them will not need worry about the rise in the cost of Living. Liz will get my vote so that's one she's will get. 

We watched the old film Reach for the Sky again yesterday and the way Roger Moore played Douglas Bader kept making me think about Boris.  It was the same blustering and lack of attention to detail.  I'm not criticising Boris, I quite like him.

Quote from: hugh on July 25, 2022, 09:59:17 AMBoris will start rolling in the £millions and good luck to him. Surprising just how people have been on TV supporting Rishi, but none of them will not need worry about the rise in the cost of Living. Liz will get my vote so that's one she's will get.

I'm voting for Liz Truss on the basis of keeping an ethnic Indian out of the top job.

I won't be watching any of the debates or Party membership hustings as my mind was made up as soon as Sunak & Truss  were the two choices.

And I can assure you, I'm not on my own for doing it for that reason.

Can anyone answer these questions  ?

Why did Rishi Sunak in office never challenge the EU's escalating demands for more UK money after Brexit?
Why did he let the EU dictate our VAT policy?
Why did he not protest about the EU's distortion of the NI Protocol?
Why did he delay the Freeports?

Asked by John Redwood, but questions that Sunak should answer, particularly the VAT question.

Quote from: Diasi on July 25, 2022, 11:20:01 AMI'm voting for Liz Truss on the basis of keeping an ethnic Indian out of the top job.

I won't be watching any of the debates or Party membership hustings as my mind was made up as soon as Sunak & Truss  were the two choices.

And I can assure you, I'm not on my own for doing it for that reason.

If I had a vote, which I don't, I couldn't vote for Mr Sunak either, not just because he is an Indian, but he was instrumental in the coup to oust the leader of his party. There are many other questions hanging over this man, among them Tony Blair's endorsement.

Quote from: Sheila on July 25, 2022, 10:47:28 AMWe watched the old film Reach for the Sky again yesterday and the way Roger Moore played Douglas Bader kept making me think about Boris.  It was the same blustering and lack of attention to detail.  I'm not criticising Boris, I quite like him.

Kenneth, not Roger

Quote from: Ashy on July 25, 2022, 11:58:14 AMIf I had a vote, which I don't, I couldn't vote for Mr Sunak either, not just because he is an Indian, but he was instrumental in the coup to oust the leader of his party. There are many other questions hanging over this man, among them Tony Blair's endorsement.

I don't have a vote either, but if I did I certainly would not be voting for him. To me he's a very slippery customer and not to be trusted one bit.
She's not much better.

Quote from: Raven on July 25, 2022, 01:37:43 PMI don't have a vote either, but if I did I certainly would not be voting for him. To me he's a very slippery customer and not to be trusted one bit.
She's not much better.

I agree.

I said that the way the MPs' voting was being rigged I'd end up voting for the lesser of two bad candidates.

Mind you, I still wouldn't have voted for Sunak so the choice was made for me,



July 25, 2022, 02:24:30 PM
I'd have voted for Liz Truss on the basis of keeping an ethnic African out of the top job as well.

Quote from: Alex on July 20, 2022, 12:38:11 PMI know it won't happen, I'm still convinced it's a "fix" and Sunak will be the next PM.

He's a hedonistic Globalist, supported by the World Economic Forum, it's a foregone conclusion. As Stalin once famously said:

"Its not the people who vote that count,
Its the people who count the votes, that count!"

Quote from: Cassandra on July 25, 2022, 03:41:36 PMHe's a hedonistic Globalist, supported by the World Economic Forum, it's a foregone conclusion. As Stalin once famously said:

"Its not the people who vote that count,
Its the people who count the votes, that count!"

There's that voice of reason again.